[FCLinder]

Saw this on MTBR and thought you guys would want to see this:

http://www.frameforum.net/forum2/index.php?showtopic=3174&hl=

Enduro-Freeride carbon frame

Frame features:

-1,5" headtube
-83mm wide BB shell
-150mm wide dropmounts for 12mm axle
-150mm rear travel
-31,6mm seatpost diameter

-frame weight is 3680g w/o shock

 

[4xBoy]

With a name like carbon mike, it must be good.

 

[MMcG]

pretty sick - the guy built that for himself - awesome if you ask me.

 

[FCLinder]

pretty sick - the guy built that for himself - awesome if you ask me.

I thought so myself. The guy should build and sale them. Frame with out shock is just over 8lbs.

 

[Castle]

really good lookin' bicycle!

 

[BillT]

Looks like a carbon Intense 6.6...very nice!

 

[stiksandstones]

Looks like a carbon Intense 6.6...very nice!

x2, if he refined that toptube/head tube union, looks to blocky, would be dope.

 

[Zark]

No Der hanger? Saint only?

Sick looking rig.
Did he get SC's permission to use VPP?

 

[RMboy]

really nice, sum reason the linkages look amazing...

 

[seismic]

That frame looks really, really good !

 

[sunny]

Wonder how many he's tested and fatigued to failure before he plans to market them?

 

[AlmostHeaven]

wow... that rear swingarm looks eerily similar to a VP-Free...minus the dropouts. did he use the links from a previous VPP bike or machine his own? they look like they could be from a SC or Intense.

totally friggin' awesome otherwise! wish i had the skills and knowledge to pull something off like that. hope it lasts him more than a season!

PS - Why the ancient SID Dual-Air? would be 10x sicker with a DHX Air, IMO (that i'm sure everyone is eager to hear).

 

[S.K.C.]

Wow...

That's pretty impressive - a very professional looking job.

I like the lines of the frame - very nice - but I wonder if he's done any FEA work on it?

 

[RMboy]

wow... that rear swingarm looks eerily similar to a VP-Free...minus the dropouts. did he use the links from a previous VPP bike or machine his own? they look like they could be from a SC or Intense.

totally friggin' awesome otherwise! wish i had the skills and knowledge to pull something off like that. hope it lasts him more than a season!

PS - Why the ancient SID Dual-Air? would be 10x sicker with a DHX Air, IMO (that i'm sure everyone is eager to hear).

Yeah i agree with AlmostHeaven, why the old school shock, DHX air would be better for that type of riding ur prob planning on doing...irate2:

 

[DHS]

very very cool. definitely a one off design though. Santa Cruz is super anal about VPP.

plus by the looks of the SID rear shock (looks like the old dual air model) he doesn't have enough money to pay for the VPP patent.

 

[CBJ]

So who will hire him Intense or Santa Cruz? I am sure the cost would be a lot higher than alu.

 

[julian_dh]

yea i think they just let him use it, i doubt there worried about one single frame with vpp for personal use.

 

[Smelly]

what an awesome frame. I wonder why he didn't go with a longer shock though?

 

[Bicyclist]

yea i think they just let him use it, i doubt there worried about one single frame with vpp for personal use.

Actually, in the US companies need to actively pursue infringement to keep their patents. DW stated if someone built one bike with DW-link he'd track their asses down to ensure security of the patent.

 

[sneakysnake]

He said in one of the posts he made in that link that Santa Cruz wasn't worried about it since he was making the frame for himself, and not to sell. I don't know if he actually contacted sc and if he did then I don't know if that was a smart move on sc's part but oh well; it is an awesome looking frame.

 

[RD3]

The builder is from Slovakia, so he could probably sell as many frames as he wanted as long as he didn't sell them in the USA.
The frame reminds me most of the Scott Ransom, both are 6" travel all mountain carbon frames.
Cool looking frame, very pleasing to the eye.

 

[davep]

You guys do realize he lives in Slovakia....????

He said that he built the links and logo'ed them him self...no way in He11 that Santa Cruz is going to persue a single frame build by the end user ...in Slovikia

There are some pics of the building as well. Interesting that he uses foam for the front but wood for the entire rear end. Seems like a fairly heavy material (does not look like balsa) to simply build the lay up over.

I think I would go with a foam and then disolve it out with some solvent.

The great part with carbon/composite is that anyone can do this type of thing at home (most are just intimidated as carbon seems so 'exotic' and it is not a material that most people have any hands on experience with)....very simple manufacture process that he is using... Wooden jigs and hardware store bolts. No way that the average kid at home could weld an aluminum frame....but with some reading/research anyone could do this type of thing at home..

Cool!!!!

 

[SteezyWeezy]

that thing is super sick, reaaally good lookin job

 

[buildyourown]

I've been following this guys build for awhile on frameforum.
He had the links machined by a shop and then did a lot of extra work on them with manual tools. He said he had the dropouts done in waterjet and then added the pinch bolts himself.

You don't need to license the patent if you aren't going to sell it. It's only infringement if your trying to make money.
I'm sure he won't sell them. It is very hard to make money making bikes by hand.

 

[CarbonMike]

Hi guys,
its me, CarbonMike. It took me almost 3 years to design, engineer and build this carbon frame. I build it for less that 700dolars! But theres ton of handwork.
About that VPP. I dont think that will be problem for SC. THERE WILL BE NO COPY OF THIS FRAME. IT IS NOTHING COMMERCTIAL, NOTHING FOR ,,MONEY MAKING,,. I just love Intense and SantaCrus bikes som much that I decited to build my own for ME. Because I dont have money to JUST buy it. Money is also reason for that oldschool shock. Its easy to buy DHX Air when you have money... I dont have.
About that weight. Of course its bit heavy for carbon fiber frame, but you have to consider that its homemade. Try to build your own and we will see.
About hanger.. it is only for saint. But I will use special remaked SORA.
In the middle of this year Im going to start Evolution II project with DIFFERENT SUSPENSION SYSTEM and with pro technoloogy. I hope it will be beginning of low-scale production. So check www.carbonmike.sk for informations (page is not ready now)

 

[bikenweed]

Hi guys,
its me, CarbonMike. It took me almost 3 years to design, engineer and build this carbon frame. I build it for less that 700dolars! But theres ton of handwork.
About that VPP. I dont think that will be problem for SC. THERE WILL BE NO COPY OF THIS FRAME. IT IS NOTHING COMMERCTIAL, NOTHING FOR ,,MONEY MAKING,,. I just love Intense and SantaCrus bikes som much that I decited to build my own for ME. Because I dont have money to JUST buy it. Money is also reason for that oldschool shock. Its easy to buy DHX Air when you have money... I dont have.
About that weight. Of course its bit heavy for carbon fiber frame, but you have to consider that its homemade. Try to build your own and we will see.
About hanger.. it is only for saint. But I will use special remaked SORA.
In the middle of this year Im going to start Evolution II project with DIFFERENT SUSPENSION SYSTEM and with pro technoloogy. I hope it will be beginning of low-scale production. So check www.carbonmike.sk for informations (page is not ready now)

Dang, your English is really good. Bike looks great!

 

[JRogers]

Definitely a sick looking frame. One of the best homebuilt bikes I've seen!

 

[FastTimes]

DW stated if someone built one bike with DW-link he'd track their asses down to ensure security of the patent.

Giant, cough, cough...

 

[ÆX]

. I just love Intense and SantaCrus bikes som much that I decited to build my own for ME. Because I dont have money to JUST buy it. Money is also reason for that oldschool shock. Its easy to buy DHX Air when you have money... I dont have.)

that was the reason i started making frames too.

looks good mike. on the next one bring some of your own ideas
into it. irate2:

 

[CarbonMike]

Thanks guys for your interest and your opinions. I really appreciate that
2BCD: Maybe you think that my frame is just some sort of copy, but Im not going to make any revolution or something super difficult or absolutely different from todays bikes. Im conservative guy, and I like conventional looking bikes. No offence man. I hope you understand me

 

[Damo]

CarbonMike, that is one sweet frame. Congrats on a fantastic home-build. Best one I've seen. Reminds me of a Socom.
As for your English, it's better than some on this forum. Welcome.

 

[CarbonMike]

new photos from DH race on my carbon frame... www.carbonmike.sk

 

[ServeEm]

Some sick sh!t Mike! Keep it up

 

[peter6061]

Very nice... and inspirational.

 

[muddy beast]

wow that thing is amazing...I want to make one now .

 

[MrPlow]

Now that's an awesome bit of work there mate!

Did you vacuum bag? What epoxy and carbon did you use? How many layers etc?

 

[CarbonMike]

Thanks No, frame was made on positive core and all layers were compressed with plastic tape with pinholes. I used MGS L285 resin, 160g/m2 carbon twill fabric and 300g/m2 UD carbon. Number of layers depends... its between 6 to about 15 layers (low/high stress areas). Im working on new version of frame with different suspension type. Im also developing new technology for it.

 

[Slacker]

Hey Mike, what's your eye-to-eye and stroke on that shock?


By the way, excellent job Its' one thing to make your own frame, but it's an entirely different thing to make one the rides without snapping in half and make it look beautiful.

 

[CarbonMike]

Thanks Slacker eye-to-eye is 190mm.

 

[fluider]

Another beautiful hand-crafted carbon enduro from Slovakia. Seems to be a pure carbon version of SC Nomad, costed him sexy 1200 Euro and as he states after one season, it is still not broken. He's raced even on some local DH competition. More info and pix at his www.mwbikes.com.