Saddam Hussein to be Executed by Saturday:
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He's kind of old.........what if his head pops off?
Remember the super fat guy in Washington who's lawyer argued that hanging would be inhumane for the guy since his head would likely be pulled off?
As for Saddam, he's a scapegoat and a puppet, so kinda sad.
It'd better not be pay-per-view, I'm broke.
there is a mathematical formula for that.
the variables account for weight, fitness and so i think.
it gives the ideal drop to hit the sweetspot and break the neck... without severing the head and without choking the individual for minutes before he dies.
i read that on popular mechanics when i was 13. interesting stuff, i wonder if that article was printed on the US edition too.
Ive read that, but not in PM. I forget where.
Give him a freedom kick to the nuts. And then spit freedom saliva in his face. When you're done with that, bellow a hearty freedom guffaw.
Didnt that guy go to prison at normal size, and eat his way out of being hung? Kind of like a death row version of "Super Size me"?
And Opie, dont tell me you feel sorry for Sadaam...he is being done more humanely than 9/10ths of the ones he murdered.
Aren't executions in that neck of the woods usually public? I can't imagine that'd be wise given all the security concerns.
So when will the footage end up on Youtube?
So when will the footage end up on Youtube?
When Saddam was in power, the executions were sometimes held in the football(soccer for us Americans) stadium. That was also where they had their torture center.
I'm suprised Bush isn't embarassed by this though. Not because Saddam is being hung and all the human rights groups are going nuts, but because the Iraqi government seems to be more efficient at execuiting people than his home state of Texas. Texas to pass law with 10day death row stays in 5...4...3...2...
Now that's funny.
I doubt it would be in public, actually I bet all the confusion about when it is supposed to occur is has been manufactured for security concerns.
Holy crap that was like yesterday.
So you warshington folks draw and quarter people when they're caught trespassing? Little iron maiden for shoplifting or the rack any time someone gets a dui?
Personally I think liver disease is a hell of a lot worse than hanging....unless there's a state-paid morphine main line....then it's WAAAAYYY betta.
And I like racks.
I'm just not a big fan of the death penalty.
Ditto that.
I do feel sorry for him, as I feel sorry for all our humanity when we are reduced to an eye for an eye.
Or an eye for 296 eyes, in this case.
I don't feel sorry for him. I feel sorry for humanity, and our own current society. It might sound corny, but "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" is absolutely true.
On the subject of hanging, if done CORRECTLY, it's not that bad. The neck breaks and you die pretty much instantly. AlexisDH is spot on. And if the head detaches from the body it's really only messy for those who have to clean it up. The hangee is already dead from the neckk breaking. It's a helluva lot more humane than the electric chair.
Personally if I was to be executed I'd prefer the guillotine. Very very efficient.
The only reason that I said I feel sorry for him, is because whether we like it or not (or whether we like him or not) he is part of our global community and part of our collective humanity.
Actually, it's quite a bit larger than that, but that doesn't change anything. Whenever the state kills someone, it kills in my name. I have no desire to kill anyone or have anyone else killed.
I grok. And I agree. As an individual, no... but as a member of humanity and our society, then yes. It's a tough subject and a difficult opinion to form.
Hmm,
Interesting to hear what the rest of the world's leaders think of this subject and the trail itself:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6211761.stm
But does anyone else's opinions really matter?
Interesting to hear what the rest of the world's leaders think of this subject and the trail itself:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6211761.stm
But does anyone else's opinions really matter?
For political reasons within the Borders of Iraq it seems to me just letting him rot away in jail would be better. Outside the morality of it, it is still sad as you could say it was once our ultimate goal in Iraq and now it will not help out the sorry state of affairs in that country at all.
I'm sure he's responsible for much more than just the 148 that he was sentenced for.
What the hell does that mean? It doesn't matter to me whether he killed 1 person or 1 million. I still stand by my position that the death penalty should be abolished. Period. What, do you think you scored points or something? The more people he killed, the more people want his blood, so you would want him to have killed more people, not less. Duh.
He has been sentanced to death for the death for those 148 Shias in the 80s, Yes...
But he is also on (second) trial for genocide against the Kurds.
Edit: This is getting rediculous: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6217725.stm
Except that letting him rot in jail would put even more lives at risk. Wherever he would be held would become prime target for any group that would wish to break him out. And if they did succeed, I can't even begin to imagine the support that him being free and leading the fight "against the western oppressors" would bring.
On the other hand, executing him makes him a martyr, giving support to those same groups who want to avenge his death at the hands of "the western oppressors". Question is, which will lead to less bloodshed.
Who the hell is fighting for Saddam anymore. The power structure in Iraq has changed and those with the power are not going to give it up or use it to fight for him. What this does do is just continue to make the Iraqi government look more like an illegitimate puppet of the US.
True.
It would be safe to say however that there are still plenty of people who support Saddam both in Iraq and in some other areas of the world.
While the headlines show the Iraqi people dancing and celebrating the sentance...there are still many cities in Iraq that are in protest over the descision. Military forces in Iraq are bracing for a retaliation in response to the verdict. And do you think all the terror groups around the world want the execution to go on? Why else would they keep the date, time and location of the execution secret if there was not opposition. Hell, many people in the international community are bitterly opposed to it.
=U.S.A "Dance!dance!" 
= New Iraqi government "Whatever you say boss"
True.
It would be safe to say however that there are still plenty of people who support Saddam both in Iraq and in some other areas of the world.
While the headlines show the Iraqi people dancing and celebrating the sentance...there are still many cities in Iraq that are in protest over the descision. Military forces in Iraq are bracing for a retaliation in response to the verdict. And do you think all the terror groups around the world want the execution to go on? Why else would they keep the date, time and location of the execution secret if there was not opposition. Hell, many people in the international community are bitterly opposed to it.
Ironically it was the Iraqi government (if I remember correctly) that wanted to detain and try Saddam locally. We would have been the puppet masters if we forced them to send him to an international court. But of course the administration does not like international courts.
Edit: Funny thing is one of the best possible outcomes at this point would be if Saddam did escape and gain power again. Let that ****hole be his problem again.
A better sentence would be to put him in a catapault and shoot him into Iran.
The learning curve has been pretty steep here, and what we and the Iraqis are finding out is the same thing the Soviets learned after the wall came down. Life under a dictatorship sucks, but the power vacuum after the fall is just as brutal. It is going to get worse before it gets better, if it ever does.
Thanks George, nice going...
Thanks George, nice going...
Step off punk.
Now he is to be executed by 10pm est tonight (Friday). Iraq is going to explode, that is 6am local.
6 am might be the only time that Iraq isn't usually exploding, so it could make a nice continuum.
