Push Elevensix shock

supercow · Feb 17, 2015

Bargain, I'll take 2

saruti · Feb 17, 2015

all I wanted in a shock. for AM/Enduro.
but the price..... wow!

tomasis7 · Feb 17, 2015

Too heavy. 600gram less in my shock.

demo 9 · Feb 17, 2015

I still think a BOS kirk would blow it away in both performance and weight.

Really, i cannot even fathom or want a shock better than a kirk, and im not even running the right tune

dan-o · Feb 17, 2015

I'm going to reserve judgement until Udi looks at the line drawings and deems it acceptable.

Westy · Feb 17, 2015

I don't see any shimz in the drawing. Would not buy.

saruti · Feb 17, 2015

@demo 9
on what bike do you use the kirk?
thanks

demo 9 · Feb 17, 2015

Canfield balance, and really, i do not think it could be better. Even if its better on paper i just dont think it could be smoother. I feel like companies are going in the wrong direction with this stuff. More dials more adjustment, more shimz.

So far only BOS has focused on stiction and it pays off. Is an extra sensitive rebound more important than having a soft and fluid shock/fork that will transmit less in to the bars in general?

(And bos has this stuff tuned super nice anyway)

Westy · Feb 17, 2015

Sandro said:
Who needs shimz when you have a thermal compensating energized design?

Does that mean they were on cocaine when they designed it, or just a bunch of Monster Energy? Bro.

TrumbullHucker · Feb 17, 2015

$1200 is cray

coming from PUSH is real cool though
looking for a ride review..

Sandwich · Feb 17, 2015

that's a lot of money

Nick · Feb 17, 2015

I did a ride over the Summer with a couple of PUSH guys, who had these bolted on to their bikes. They didn't talk too much about what was going on but just looking at them, and knowing PUSH, you knew there was some b'idness going on in there.

I'd love to try one. Price. Wow. Yea. Ouch.

Sandwich · Feb 17, 2015

is the "dual tune" feature something that people really want? Just curious. That's a lot of weight and complexity to add for the sake of being able to run two completely different compression tunes on your bike. Would it be wiser to have a lockout or climb switch, or is this an enduro thing that I just don't understand?

djjohnr · Feb 17, 2015

Nice. Congrats Darren.

Nick · Feb 17, 2015

Sandwich said:
is the "dual tune" feature something that people really want? Just curious. That's a lot of weight and complexity to add for the sake of being able to run two completely different compression tunes on your bike. Would it be wiser to have a lockout or climb switch, or is this an enduro thing that I just don't understand?

Isn't the lockout or climb platform pretty much the #1 compromise that people bitch about the most? (ctd anyone?)
This seems ideal to me and the weight penalty shouldn't be an issue on a 28lb bike,

Westy · Feb 17, 2015

Sandro said:
Inconclusive, but I'm pretty sure the Dual Overhead Valve is responsible for the high price.

That advanced spring alloy can't be cheap.

Sandwich · Feb 17, 2015

Nick said:
Isn't the lockout or climb platform pretty much the #1 compromise that people bitch about the most? (ctd anyone?)
This seems ideal to me and the weight penalty shouldn't be an issue on a 28lb bike,

my beef is always lack of adjustment. you've already got high and low speed compression, independent adjusters for each...that's key...to have two of them, though?

marzocchi has something coming out that has both high and low AND a CTD lever. I feel like that's a better approach. Firm it up for when you need to climb, open it up for the descent, then lock it out for the road to the top. Twiddle your knobs when it feels like shit...

StiHacka · Feb 17, 2015

Double its price but is it double enduro of the

?

kickstand · Feb 17, 2015

Needs more adjustment so that 99% of us can turn all the knobs and get it to ride so fucked up we hate our bike

Jm_ · Feb 17, 2015

Could buy two custom tuned avalanche shocks, just gotta figure out how to switch them out fast on the fly.

supercow · Feb 17, 2015

Similar ilk to these

http://stendecworks.com/storia-extreme-shox/

captainspauldin · Feb 17, 2015

Aren't alot of the Endurbro bikes designed around air shocks? I'm sure it's a great shock, but how does it overcome a frame tuned for an airshock?

And yes to @Sandwich point wouldn't CC's CS feature or the new marzocchi thinger be a better approach? Do people really need to customize their climb/whogivesafuck settings? More pratical use for the average joe(dentist) would be a bike park setting and a trail setting for those that use the same bike for both..

I dunno either way exciting to see PUSH come out with their own complete end to end product offering ('MURICA!)

kidwoo · Feb 17, 2015

But does it kill roaches on contact?

jonKranked · Feb 17, 2015

demo 9 said:
I still think a BOS kirk would blow it away in both performance and weight.

Really, i cannot even fathom or want a shock better than a kirk, and im not even running the right tune

hey guys, the suspension expert has spoken without ever riding the shock. Serious Business™

jstuhlman · Feb 17, 2015

been running a dbcoil on my trailbike for years...and now they say it's the "enduro" thing to do. dammit, push, i refuse to let you make me feel like a hipster.

4130biker · Feb 17, 2015

Crazy shock. Love the "coil lite" idea.
For all that you're getting and that goes into these shocks, it seems like it would be worth it to the right people, it's just way too much for me to justify.

djjohnr · Feb 17, 2015

captainspauldin said:
Aren't alot of the Endurbro bikes designed around air shocks? I'm sure it's a great shock, but how does it overcome a frame tuned for an airshock?

Realistically not really. While there's a few that would be shitty, take a look around that spanish linkage site (http://linkagedesign.blogspot.com/) and you'll see most frames have linkages with linear or progressive rates that would be compatible with either with proper tuning.

Nick · Feb 17, 2015

funny that they have a fitment for the Pivot Mach 6, yet Pivot states that you should not use a coil on their frame.
I wonder how that could affect a warranty claim.

Can I put a coil-over shock on my Mach 6?
You cannot run a coil-over on your Mach 6! The Mach 6 was designed to work with the progressiveness of an air spring. A coil-over shock (even one with separate bottoming control) does not offer the progressive spring curve that the Mach 6 requires. Running a coil-over shock on the Mach 6 will result in hard bottoming and damage to the frame.

- See more at: http://www.pivotcycles.com/bike/mach-6/#faqs

jstuhlman · Feb 17, 2015

according to the wooencycloshockopedia, a coil should help the vpp mush-O-midstroke somewhat.

djjohnr · Feb 17, 2015

Nick said:
funny that they have a fitment for the Pivot Mach 6, yet Pivot states that you should not use a coil on their frame.
I wonder how that could affect a warranty claim.

Can I put a coil-over shock on my Mach 6?
You cannot run a coil-over on your Mach 6! The Mach 6 was designed to work with the progressiveness of an air spring. A coil-over shock (even one with separate bottoming control) does not offer the progressive spring curve that the Mach 6 requires. Running a coil-over shock on the Mach 6 will result in hard bottoming and damage to the frame.

- See more at: http://www.pivotcycles.com/bike/mach-6/#faqs[/QUOTE]

Looks progressive to linear. Workable. That 5.7 is a different story.
http://linkagedesign.blogspot.com/2013/08/pivot-mach-6-650b-2014.html
http://linkagedesign.blogspot.com/2013/08/pivot-mach-6-650b-2014.html
http://www.pivotcycles.com/bike/mach-6/#faqs

kidwoo · Feb 17, 2015

jstuhlman said:
according to the wooencycloshockopedia, a coil should help the vpp mush-O-midstroke somewhat.

Do I need to start charging you for a subscription? That's like 3 references in three threads and I have yet to see any royalty money.

jstuhlman · Feb 17, 2015

I thought the woocyclopedia was a free benefit of RM membership?

jonKranked · Feb 17, 2015

jstuhlman said:
I thought the woocyclopedia was a free benefit of RM membership?

only if you have the Members Only jacket

jstuhlman · Feb 17, 2015

it came in the pocket

kidwoo · Feb 17, 2015

Oh yeah, we're good. Those are still valid.

Why is no one talking about the fact that this shock has a parabola in it? Unfortunately without the ability to tighten up the latus rectum but still.....It's a start.

jonKranked · Feb 17, 2015

kidwoo said:
Oh yeah, we're good. Those are still valid.

Why is no one talking about the fact that this shock has a parabola in it? Unfortunately without the ability to tighten up the latus rectum but still.....It's a start.

call me when you make a shock with asymptotic bottom out

StiHacka · Feb 17, 2015

Looks like a bong.

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