minimum wage police work...firefighting...
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What do an 8 year old boy and a policeman have in common?
They both want to be a fireman.
<edit> Wow, I doubt that will go over well for the townfolk.
They both want to be a fireman.
<edit> Wow, I doubt that will go over well for the townfolk.
They should be able to get by if they work some overtime like they do in Arkansas.
http://arkansasmatters.com/fulltext?nxd_id=545792
http://arkansasmatters.com/fulltext?nxd_id=545792
Careful, your hyperbole is showing.
Guessing this will wind up costing Scranton long term.
I can see the motivation of firemen and police officers to risk their lives for minimum wage...teachers are next. R-Money will be hard as a rock...
Wow, who wouldn't want to get shot at for $7.25 per hour ? Sounds reasonable.
More people insured means more money for MDs, in theory. They're probably old codgers just generally unhappy with the reality of Medicare and insurance bureaucracies.
if the premiums are the same or even slightly less, yes. but if you increase the number of MDs to meet the number of insured (which i would hope would happen), then there seems to me to be no significant change. do you see an incentive to increase the number of MDs while not compromising quality of service or care?
btw, got checked out for my knee about a month back, got an MRI the next week, a follow up yesterday that also included an electrical nerve test for my right arm, expect to be scheduled for another MRI to focus on just my shoulder some time next week, with a follow up for that end of month...would you see these string of appts being more likely, just as likely, or less likely when the full obamacare mandate kicks in? if it matters, these were civilian appts through my PPO, even though i'm also in the VA system (these recent visits will be put into my VA file for administrative reasons; i have no plans to receive treatment in the VA system)
if you mean my contacts, they're about our age, and have been in practice for 50 yrs b/t them. maybe i misunderstood?
Corruption in the LRPD...........I'm shocked.....................
I see a push for many more NPs and PAs. Residency programs are pretty much maxed out for MDs, and I don't see them increasing in size to crank out a corresponding increased number of attendings, certainly not in primary care.
I don't see how the ACA affects this at all. We're amply provided with specialists and MRI magnets in the US, increased insured population or not, and there's no govt single payer option that'd probably have increased waits in exchange for cheaper premiums.
I'm 30--I thought you were older? People from my med school class (finished in '08) are almost universally supportive of the ACA and health care reform in general.
I think that mayor needs a pay cut. Just think when the calls start coming in on 911 and no one to answer and no one to go to the the crime scene or fire.
Sounds like $tinkle's doctors are upset that their gravy-train of suckling on the teat of Socialized Medicine (Medicare/Medicaid) might be coming to an end? Seniors 65+ expend 3x as much in medical costs as someone 18-64, and now some doctors are horrified, HORRIFIED that there might be some type of cost-control measures aimed at their most frequent customers....
http://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Statistics-Trends-and-Reports/NationalHealthExpendData/Downloads/2004GenderandAgeTables.pdf
I say good for the mayor for having the balls to do what should have been done long before his term.
Quit spending what he doesn't have.
Quit spending what he doesn't have.
Dunno, I'm guessing you didn't ask the ortho or ob how they were going to be affected by ACA when the main cost-controlling measures were controlling Medicare/Medicaid reimbursements or placing a floor on health insurance payout ratios?
I know when I think about cutting costs, police and fire are right at the top. They are just overpaid kids pretending to be important, anyway.
have cops burn the libraries to the groundI know when I think about cutting costs, police and fire are right at the top. They are just overpaid kids pretending to be important, anyway.
win/win/win
The mayor isn't getting paid.
The problem is the city has $130,000 to last the rest of the year and they have a loan due now that they can't pay. The mayor has put forth multiple plans from selling assets to raising taxes but the city council either votes no or doesn't even vote on the plans.
One of the plans was to sell the public parking garages but the council said no since they bring in money, the problem is yes they bring in money but they run at a loss, and every time the mayor tries to raise the fee to make up for the loss the council votes no.
There was a budget passed last year that would have fixed it but when the current council took office they threw it out because it raised taxes.
The council wants to get rid of him since he has been in office for around 10 years and they are trying to blame him for everthing
I'm curious what else has been cut from budget. Of course cutting pay for cops and firemen is more sensational and would make the national news, but what else has been done to get the budget under control?I know when I think about cutting costs, police and fire are right at the top. They are just overpaid kids pretending to be important, anyway.
He cut EVERYONE across the board on the city payroll, not just fire/police. I can see sensationalizing the fire/police aspect, but theory vs. practice it's a bad move in reality.
Either raise taxes to cover the city needs, or cut the city needs. But don't try to fill the city needs with minimum wage folk.
Grover Norquist would be proud. Just wait till a court forces residents taxes to increase.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/26/business/surprised-taxpayers-are-paying-for-bonds-they-did-not-vote-on.html?pagewanted=1&smid=tw-share
grover norquist lives in virginia. here's why:
http://www.changemaryland.org/2012/05/maryland-taxes-spark-largest-exodus-of-any-state-in-region/
It's times like this that I'm happy that I bought a house in a sleepy 7,500 person "city" that's actually completely surrounded by Madison. Our only debt is a few well-performing TIFs and a road reconstruction, we've got $1m in cash savings and an AA S&P bond rating. The most heated discussions at the city council meetings in the past couple years were whether to allow backyard chickens and the width of the sidewalk on one side of the road in the above-mentioned road reconstruction....
But you have no Freedom®!
Unfortunately you are correct.... The sidewalk was narrowed from 10' down to 7.5', and then again down to 5' even over my loud protestations. 
What is most likely to happen is the city is going to file bankruptcy, but in the state of PA cities can't file bankruptcy so the state will take over. The state is controlled by one of the most anti tax governors out there so the taxes wont go up but they will have to sell off the cities assets and the workers will get pay cuts, just not as severe as the one the mayor is trying to give them.
The other issue in Scranton is during the 2000's when the economy was doing good the population was shrinking but the city area wasn't. The mayor tried to consolidate fire departments and police stations, the council last year went along with it and they closed a few. Then the city had a bad fire that wouldn't have been as bad if they didn't close the local fire dept. down. Now all of the fire departments are back up and running.
My hometown which is about 1.5 hours away is consolidating the fire departments (which makes sense since the 2 are only 4 blocks away from each other) and a lot of the people aren't happy and are claiming there will be a repeat of what happened in Scranton.
Orthos make a killing on spine surgery (+/- indicated or ultimately helpful) and joint replacements. Guess which age group gets the vast majority of both procedures, but especially the latter?
Obstetricians, sure: not doing much business with the over-45 crowd. On the gynecology side of their practice I bet they're dealing with some nasty pelvic floor laxity cases, though. :gag:
i was under the impression that if proper procedures are followed, municipalities can file bankruptcy. Harrisburg tried but did not follow procedure and is considered a 3rd class city so the bankruptcy filing was thrown out by a judge.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203764804577058741020977490.html
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2012/07/11/Scrantons-Fiscal-Mess-May-Lead-to-Bankruptcy.aspx#page1
$tinkle, I would also like to point out we have a socialized medicine program that YOU already help pay for. It's called the emergency room.
Funny enough, it's quite a bit more expensive than preventive care
Funny enough, it's quite a bit more expensive than preventive care
This is really simple. It's one of two things happening:
a) They have built up profitable practices with the current system. They fear that change will disrupt that system, haven't examined whether it will be a net gain or loss, and are annoyed that it will cause them any organizational pain.
b) you're in colorado springs. they're ideologues. anything obama did must be bad.
I was just home in ohio for my brother's wedding. The town (technically "village," pop 1,500) ran a surplus this year so there is brand new 5' sidewalk on my parent's street. Waste of taxpayer money. When I was a child we walked in the middle of the goddamn road to get to school in the morning. How else do you think I developed these cat-like reflexes and permanent limp?
Not possible anymore with battery powered vehicles silently terrorizing the streets.
Remember kids, smug kills.
btw, been following another thread borne out of the scranton one:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002927750
haz teh lulz
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002927750
haz teh lulz
Speaking of Grover:
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/07/13/516248/george-bush-grover-norquist/
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/07/13/516248/george-bush-grover-norquist/