Just curious why people are running Boxxers, or 40s now days instead of 2010-11 888s. Is it just lack of knowledge, minor weight gains, or sponsorship specials?
That's quite important in dh. I'm very curious to try the 2010+ zokes but the 05-07 I tried felt considerably worse than Foxes and Boxxers in the LSC department unless I used a lot of it in the zoke. Which is kinda fine as I like it that way for MOST of the tracks but sometimes I want to have an option of running less and all the 888s I tried feel strange with smaller amounts of LSC.So 888s don't have as good low speed compression control. Please be more acurate. and yeah, orifice rebound's a bit lame, but does seem to work well enough.
The dampings different to the older 888s.That's quite important in dh. I'm very curious to try the 2010+ zokes but the 05-07 I tried felt considerably worse than Foxes and Boxxers in the LSC department unless I used a lot of it in the zoke. Which is kinda fine as I like it that way for MOST of the tracks but sometimes I want to have an option of running less and all the 888s I tried feel strange with smaller amounts of LSC.
That + no dm mounts and them being a bit higher than other forks.
Forgive my ignorance, and somebody pls correct me if I'm wrong.. I felt like the few long-travel marzocchis I rode, seem to brake dive pretty bad, and I couldn't figure out how to dial it out. But again these were older Marzocchi(namely a '07 66 rc2x), and I didn't spend a lot of time with it.So 888s don't have as good low speed compression control. Please be more acurate. and yeah, orifice rebound's a bit lame, but does seem to work well enough.
You can control the ride height on the new 888s a lot better.Forgive my ignorance, and somebody pls correct me if I'm wrong.. I felt like the few long-travel marzocchis I rode, seem to brake dive pretty bad, and I couldn't figure out how to dial it out. But again these were older Marzocchi(namely a '07 66 rc2x), and I didn't spend a lot of time with it.
Unfortunately they are:581mm. Weight 2990g for the EVO ti. How tall are the Boxxers? 564mm if I remember right?Not sure if they're still taller than 40s or Boxxers
570mm.Unfortunately they are:581mm. Weight 2990g for the EVO ti. How tall are the Boxxers? 564mm if I remember right?
As I said before, they don't dive in the steeps or under braking and don't wallow like the old ones.
Yea, and it took time for Rock Shox to regain its reputation after those crap years. Just like its gonna take time for Marz to regain their reputation.Your livin in the past man. Hence why I said 2010-11. Boxxers had crap years too, this is all common knowledge, no street cred to be gained regurgitating the same old tripe,
people seemed to think that was okay since it was a "race" forkwhat about Rock Shox?
they are still shipping Boxxers without oil
wasn't there enough time to solve this problem?
i had the same thing happen to me 3 times with my ATA, so i was really hesitant to get the Evo Ti.....now i wont ride anything else. i HATED my 40 and also dislike the BoxxersTrust is my issue. My buddies witnessed me do 1 single race run at Massanutten on a brand new 888 Air that had jsut been sent back to me from the factory FIXED, mind you.
What was fixed you say? Well, the fork would wind the dial down in it's travel to 6 inches halfway down a 3 minute run and stay. And the air cartridge would seize at the same time.
When it came back fixed, it did the exact same thing. I was a sad panda. Some guy who swore he knew the secret to fixing it bought it from me and I never heard from him again. Ask him what he thinks.
the CRC team ran a full Marz setup last year and is using their forks again this year (with a CCDB shock)I think the reason they are not on any top guy's bike is, that they have not the budget like the sram group or shimano and fox.
True, but I think, if you are the biggest online shop in the bike buisness and you have a downhill team, you are almost free to take any part you want.the CRC team ran a full Marz setup last year and is using their forks again this year (with a CCDB shock)
if that was the case, then they still picked Marzocchi productsTrue, but I think, if you are the biggest online shop in the bike buisness and you have a downhill team, you are almost free to take any part you want.
Suspensionwise CRC are definitely well equipped
if that was the case, then they still picked Marzocchi products
the Evo's are the same price as the comparable Boxxers. and have been out for around the same time as the new Boxxers as wellbut its costly. They have only been out for a yearish now,
i dont know whywhy?
Correct me if I'm mistaken but I kinda thought long maintenance intervals were also a strength of the Dorado...Your livin in the past man. Hence why I said 2010-11. Boxxers had crap years too, this is all common knowledge, no street cred to be gained regurgitating the same old tripe, so lets leave it out aye.
Way less maintanence over once a month crap with Boxxers and 40s, sure Doradoes aren't any better. That's my main reason for wanting to give the 888s a whirl. The ones I've ridden felt good so they seemed like the best option. Wanted to be sure.
So 888s don't have as good low speed compression control. Please be more acurate. and yeah, orifice rebound's a bit lame, but does seem to work well enough.
why, because one broke? ive seen more broken Boxxers more than i have 888'sGoing to get flamed for this but, structural failure. Rampage was really bad for their cred. I was also surprised to know that it's not just been there. Friend from NZ told me that over the recent series there have been whispers of broken 888 Ti's.
Much easier to find a deal on a boxxer than on a marz.the Evo's are the same price as the comparable Boxxers. and have been out for around the same time as the new Boxxers as well
It' a really difficult subject. Marzocchi had kind of a comeback year 2010. Everybody was vieweing, if the new models can keep up with the other forks on the market. So they already had a hard start with two terrible years behind them. And then, they go in an event, where Marzocchi HAS to stand out with performance, the Rampage. Results: 2 forks snapped and one bend. Marzocchi is known for bombproof forks and now they are snapping? Well, that's for sure not the coverage Marzocchi was after...why, because one broke? ive seen more broken Boxxers more than i have 888's
Your friend should have whispered the whole story, the guy who broke his 888smashed it into a tree doing about 40kph. He also broke a 40 the weekend before.Going to get flamed for this but, structural failure. Rampage was really bad for their cred. I was also surprised to know that it's not just been there. Friend from NZ told me that over the recent series there have been whispers of broken 888 Ti's.
because they are morons.And for Rock Shox? Well, these forks snap as well and a lot of them feel crappy, but these are "race forks" and the people tolerate it.
Your friend should have whispered the whole story, the guy who broke his 888smashed it into a tree doing about 40kph. He also broke a 40 the weekend before.