but doesn't necessarily gives you better performance...so on one side you have the performance of the coil spring versus the ease to use an air sprung fork...The world cup is so much easier to tune. air pressure FTW!
The team spring rate, in a word, sucks IMO, way to stiff/progressive. I own the Team and have spent 4 frustrating months trying to get a satisfactory ride quality out of my Team. after trying the medium and soft springs and chopping an inch out of the drop stop elastomer I've finally settled on the soft spring (I'm 175lbs, soft spring, WTF?). The feel of the team is far more progressive than the WC. My buddies WC felt much better than mine and provided more usable tuning with the more linear air spring. Basically to get usable travel out of my team I run a soft spring, no bottom out assistance, and inch shortened drop stop elastomer and both compression settings backed out almost all the way.but doesn't necessarily gives you better performance...so on one side you have the performance of the coil spring versus the ease to use an air sprung fork...
I dont know anything about BoXXers, but was under the impression they both share the same damper but one has a coil spring and the other air( and Im too lazy to look it up ) so in theory the Team would give you better performance?!?!?
That elastomer only engages in the last inch of travel doesn't it?Alternatively you could get the Team and mod or remove the dropstop to make it more linear.
You just gotta hit shlt harderYeah that's correct, but on the ones I rode it was preventing full (200mm) travel usage. I guess YMMV, and it's not like you can't change it if it is bothering you.
No...I too have had no issues with it. I too am 150 on a heavy day, but run the soft spring. I run through all of my travel once a ride here in Squamish BC. At first when it was brand new I thought I was going to have to take it out but once the fork bed in I noticed I was blowing through all the travel and had to make some adjustments to the damper. It runs sweet as now!Am I the only person who is having no problems with the drop stop? The rubber ring around the stanchion is always bottomed out against the lower crown at the end of a run, and I'm not riding any harder/differently than anybody else. I weigh 150, running the stock spring.
Yep, I was following this guy off this triple this morning and he has a 2010 Boxxer Team, and he was using every bit of his travel. Trust me. (the landing is past the big tree on the far right of the pic.)I'm 160lbs on the light spring and defintely bottom mine in a few places. I really don't feel it hindering travel or anything. Certainly not in a way that makes the fork feel overly progressive.
LOFL Judy Tech! You frickin nailed it. It is a 1990's throwback isn't it?But yeah that 2010 team for is the best dh fork I've ever owned. The bottom out judy tech elastomer seems to do exactly what it's supposed to, nothing more, nothing less.
Not much different than a bottom out bumper on a rear shoc. Judy tech has been here all along.LOFL Judy Tech! You frickin nailed it. It is a 1990's throwback isn't it?
And nobody thought of me? I got a bike again.Yep, I was following this guy off this triple this morning and he has a 2010 Boxxer Team, and he was using every bit of his travel. Trust me. (the landing is past the big tree on the far right of the pic.)
I know two pinners around here on that fork and both of them love it and have no problems with it.
And just for good measure, I used all the travel on my 08 boxxer team on said jump with a magnificent tank slapping bar hump today.
Bender himself could not have landed more rear wheel heavy.
01 monster? Didn't the older monsters use SSV damping?This may be a dumb question, but I'm not to proud to ask.
If I love how my 08 Team feels wouldn't the 2010 "Race" basically be the same? I mean they both basically have Rebound and compression.
Sometimes I think that for the majority of us....suspension is just way to overdone.....best fork I ever owned was an 01 Monster T with just rebound and compression...........I'm not ashamed to just use that and it felt rad.........and I'm NEVER going to be a world cup level racer so I most likely would never noticed all the "improvements".
Race actually seems like the way to go for me? no?
Huh.........The drop stop kicks in at 6.5"...
You mean that in 2002 the monster had ssv or that there was a 2nd version of monster with SSV that I can't find. Anyway I'm quite sure they higher end marz dampers were of later time and I wouldn't call SSV great.only the monster t2 had ssv, the rest had hscv, 2001 had a different left cartridge, the only one with compression adj
I'm all over a race...........makes sense to me.Essentially yes. Same adjustments and dampening system made to fit in the larger OD stanctions.