And how are we gonna compare our suspension designs on a track that has no rocks or bumps at all?Hydraulicman said:Not to mention all the's who ride DHR's.
It's also a single pivot, I got one and I love it :love:
Kev, if we're hopefully gonna ride in september at Namur, let's do a bike trade for a run and compare
Sorry m8, no more cashflow after the portes du soleil adventure, I'm already in debt with the misses.Kevin said:And how are we gonna compare our suspension designs on a track that has no rocks or bumps at all?
I think we need a track like BWB for that. How about next week?
.most likely fiber reinforced. Lots of very strong/ stiff plastics out there. Could be an SMC or a injection part. cant tell without looking real close. Heck, it may be fiberglass with a gelcoat or a cast mag part. i have no clue without looking at it in person.vallEbikes said:
Its a linkage driven single pivot.banj said:
but at the same time there are extremely fast riders not on single pivots, hill, kovarik, rennie, etc. i honestly believe for those guys it really does not matter what they ride. i've riden GT LTSs, Lobos (scary), DHi, 222, and now a sunday and i have to say it all comes down to personal preference. single pivots DO WORK if they r set up well and designed correctly, the orange was awesome, but at the same time the sunday is an unbelievable bike and i love it to death. but ya i would have to agree marketing departments are hard at work. i say just get out and ride the damn bike...Peat could ride a Sunday just as fast as a 222,223,224, whatever he's on now...hell he could ride a toaster down faster than us on a DH bike.Transcend said:
You raed good to transend. I said Im not a big fan, thats not the same as saying I hate m because they dont work well etc...LukeD said:
Look......4 bar bikes were the big rage back in the day. Some will still argue that they are far superior to single pivots and such but think about it, you put a floating brake on a single pivot and now you just took out what mainly makes single pivots suck. Both bikes are fine. There's nothing wrong with either design. Everyone knows it's the rider, not the bike that goes faster.LukeD said:
That's the entire point I was making, they work just fine. Fine enough for guys to be winning world cups on them, and winning againts guys ont he supposedly superior VPPs, 4 bars etcLukeD said:
Who said they werent?Transcend said:
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sayndesyn said:
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How about I try out some bikes, get the one that I like best and dont give a **** what Peat or Hill thinksayndesyn said:
Worst idea ever.Thrillkil said:
...For about 2 shifts. Then you had to pump the tank up again.pZyteX said:
I've heard that when the Honda tema put a "APC" sticker on thier team bikes that it was as effective as drilling hole sin the cranks. They tested Neuspeed stickers but they didn't work nearly as well.Thrillkil said:
Thank you.konabiker said:
why do you think they dont make em anymore.pZyteX said:
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But that doesn't mean that single pivot is the best solution for every rider. I perfer my Sunday to my Orange 222 for my skill level and for where I ride.Transcend said:
I am sure that somone will chime in with a better reposnse but b/c the Sunday is a link bike it has a more progresive sprong rate. The people I know riding them have crazy light springs on them. Single pivot bikes tend to have a more linear spring rate.julian_dh said:
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That is generally true, but can be easily resolved with shocks. As for crazy light springs...my entire team run 300lb springs on a dhx 5.Repack said:
well you still arent tweeking the spring rate....and you're all bottoming out your linear suspensions 3 times a run :dancing:Transcend said:That is generally true, but can be easily resolved with shocks. As for crazy light springs...my entire team run 300lb springs on a dhx 5.
Ya, like a properly setup suspension should.zedro said:and you're all bottoming out your linear suspensions 3 times a run :dancing:
Maybe this was true in, say, 1999...these days, does anyone really think there's more maintenace associated with linkage bikes? I mean, check your bolts often...takes 2 min. longer than it might with a single-pivot, and during your biennial bearing change, you've got 4-8 bearings to change out instead of 2. Might take you 2-3 hours instead of 1. Every 2 years.rockwool said:single pivots = less maintainance = less cost = more biking
naw, i like using 99.9% of the travel with no bottom-out....i'm just not so insecure about the amount of travel i'm using that i need a big clang to let me knowTranscend said:
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