But moooom...It's a component that fits on bicycles. People will buy it or they won't. Next topic?
Same reason people build 500+ HP pickup trucks with no rear weight bias or a limited slip diff. Stupid people will spend money on stupid things that have cool specs.I can't imagine why anybody wants a suspension fat bike. Surely they're only useful on snow/sand (i.e. soft surfaces) where you just aren't going to need suspension anyway.
How do you define useful? I have found the strange beast that is my fatbike to be goofy fun in all sorts of circumstances. This does not mean that I am going to chase crabon and fancy forks, and it has not made me hang up the Heckler, but it has improved my enjoyment coefficient while riding.I can't imagine why anybody wants a suspension fat bike. Surely they're only useful on snow/sand (i.e. soft surfaces) where you just aren't going to need suspension anyway.
So, are you riding your fatbike on normal trails, in non-wintery conditions?How do you define useful? I have found the strange beast that is my fatbike to be goofy fun in all sorts of circumstances. This does not mean that I am going to chase crabon and fancy forks, and it has not made me hang up the Heckler, but it has improved my enjoyment coefficient while riding.
I'm not trying to be an ass, it's an honest question.I like where this thread is going.
Yes. Over the two years I have had the Moonlander, I seem to be putting about equal miles (~650) on it and the Heckler. Both have their strong points, and both are fun.So, are you riding your fatbike on normal trails, in non-wintery conditions?
Right. I can't see myself wanting to ride one for reasons other than being able to ride on snow and the like, but to each their own.Yes. Over the two years I have had the Moonlander, I seem to be putting about equal miles (~650) on it and the Heckler. Both have their strong points, and both are fun.
Edit: The limits I've hit with the fatbike have been suspension related - steep downhill on babyheads is on the verge of painful.
I had not thought of that.Our fat bike trails get heavily pocked by elk and moose, and then re freeze. Suspension has been wonderful in those conditions...
Your doing it wrong. Harvest the moose and elk reindeer things for the poor to eat.Our fat bike trails get heavily pocked by elk and moose, and then re freeze. Suspension has been wonderful in those conditions...
But are you sure that's the kind of fork this is? *badaboom* (I'll be here all week, tip your waiter.)Your doing it wrong. Harvest the moose and elk reindeer things for the poor to eat.
I love my fatbike for snow, but I don't really see the point in the summer, it's lethargic, wheels are like solid blocks of stone and gyroscopic motion limits it at high speed. I find my FS 29er has much better traction uphill in the summer and I can't figure out why these people on mtbr keep saying they are faster on their fatbike, unless they are fat-lady-on-scooter-pace normally anyway. Sooner or later, people are going to figure out again that fat tires and 27,26 and 29 "+" sizes are heavy and take way more energy than they are worth.So they are bringing back double wides and 3.0 gazzoldies but they want you to pay extra? Why would I when can I just machine out a part of my boxxer crown.
So since we are going retro I'm waiting for revived xxyzx fork for 3000$.
Also 15x110 instead of 20x110 that already exists? Good job fox.
man i hate Fox, burn!!
Once one gets accustomed to plus rating of 27 and 29, we will see new smaller and bigger standards. Plus ratings is a way to soften reaction of consumers before introducing something new non plus rating.
Cmon, release super ultra deluxe version already.
That's the point. Most people don't ride them in snow or deep sand. Most of them ride them on hard ground. It's like a ton of people bought condoms only to wank in them. Though I don't know, maybe a lot of them do.I love my fatbike for snow, but I don't really see the point in the summer, it's lethargic, wheels are like solid blocks of stone and gyroscopic motion limits it at high speed. I find my FS 29er has much better traction uphill in the summer and I can't figure out why these people on mtbr keep saying they are faster on their fatbike, unless they are fat-lady-on-scooter-pace normally anyway. Sooner or later, people are going to figure out again that fat tires and 27,26 and 29 "+" sizes are heavy and take way more energy than they are worth.
I think a lot of people buy fat bikes just to wank on them...That's the point. Most people don't ride them in snow or deep sand. Most of them ride them on hard ground. It's like a ton of people bought condoms only to wank in them. Though I don't know, maybe a lot of them do.
btw. I've seen one guy who works for a large bike company claim the new standard is so you get better ride comfort when you ride your fatbike on hard terrain so I may be onto something.
All this "234 new standards per month" madness is a Dremel lobby. That's all I can say for now.This is why I got a dremel two years ago, so I can make any part compatible.
From my experience that's a problem with any industry. It's hard to find competent people. It's just more visible in some than othersI spent 5 years working in the bike world after the dot com bubble burst before I went back to my regular industry. I saw a large swath of the environment - working as a shop sales guy/wrench, inside sales rep for a large bike manufacturer, and GM of an online bike retailer. This is going to sound harsh, but the reality is most of the people I came across didn't know what the f**k they were doing from a business perspective and were often grossly unprofessional to boot. I think many of the cases you see of manufacturers ignoring standards are seat of the pants decisions. Fox may or may not fall into this category, but I definitely saw a lot of it.