[englertracing]

160 to 170
29 or mullet
Not as one bike qiver, but to compliment the trail bike.
will be used on the faster rougher trails, and at the bike parks
Before I drop names of the bikes I'm thinking
How about some random suggestions?

NOTHING with chainstays under 445mm
64.5-65 head angle

Things I like
1.5 x 1.5 head tube ++
Adjustable chainstays +++
Not super low bb+
Superboost+ (yeah I like it)
Steep as fu.... STA+

 

[HardtailHack]

Can you get anything in that travel with such a steep HTA?

 

[toodles]

What size?

 

[toodles]

Raaw Madonna?
Privateer 161?

Man that list is specific.

 

[Gary]

Sounds hard work.

Just ride your trailbike faster

 

[englertracing]

Sounds hard work.

Just ride your trailbike faster

That's the current plan.......

 

[englertracing]

Raaw Madonna?
Privateer 161?

Man that list is specific.

Both of those are considerations
Mainly the raw
The list at the bottom is negotiable just bonuses.

Can you get anything in that travel with such a steep HTA?

Yeah lots actually

 

[bullcrew]

Looking around for something to be above the evil but below the trek session and considering selling the 951 Evo to replace it with 160-170 range..my list isn't as specific lol I want a 63-64ha, a little more reach than my 951 (which is easy)..

But I want a coffee maker on the side of it so long rides I can get a bump...that has to have a 62* nozzle angle...I can forgo a coffee maker if it has a energy drink holder

 

[Andeh]

What size?

Yeah, this is pretty relevant, since getting over 445 is kinda tough on a sm/med.

 

[englertracing]

Yeah, this is pretty relevant, since getting over 445 is kinda tough on a sm/med.

Not a fan of Gigantor reaches looking for 460 - 470

 

[Jm_]

Foes Mutz obviously. Its got your super long chainstays and its “even better” than super boost!

 

[djjohnr]

For max adjustability it's hard to beat the Rocky Altitude. Adjustable chainstay length, typical geo adjust plus leverage rate adjustment. Not 1.5/1.5 but also regular ZS so adjustable headset options are there. Can be run at 64.5-65 HA if that's your thing. I run mine with a -1 headset to get it 63.7 in my preferred leverage rate setting. If you have the carbon frame you can swap the shock mount to run it in mullet, or swap to the Instinct shock mount (it's the same frame) plus the fork and shock and you have a trail bike.

 

[englertracing]

Foes Mutz obviously. Its got your super long chainstays and its “even better” than super boost!

Exactly what I was looking for
Plus he's right around the corner

 

[Redwood Mulch Chucker]

160 to 170
29 or mullet
Not as one bike qiver, but to compliment the trail bike.
will be used on the faster rougher trails, and at the bike parks
Before I drop names of the bikes I'm thinking
How about some random suggestions?

NOTHING with chainstays under 445mm
64.5-65 head angle

Things I like
1.5 x 1.5 head tube ++
Adjustable chainstays +++
Not super low bb+
Superboost+ (yeah I like it)
Steep as fu.... STA+

Deviate Claymore.

447-469mm chain stays, 64.5 HA w/ 170mm Fox 36, steepest STA I have ever experienced, 344mm BB height, press in HS cups for HA flexibility.

Hangs with the DH bike when riding the lifts, works great with a coil.

 

[englertracing]

Deviate Claymore.

447-469mm chain stays, 64.5 HA w/ 170mm Fox 36, steepest STA I have ever experienced, 344mm BB height, press in HS cups for HA flexibility.

Hangs with the DH bike when riding the lifts, works great with a coil.

also on the list,
however i had the chainstays at 441
suppose it changes alot with sag.....

 

[sethimus]

banshee titan

 

[jstuhlman]

nomad or hightower? no superboost or adjustable chainstays, and a bit slack...but i like my nomad a lot for the situation you described using it in.

 

[englertracing]

nomad or hightower? no superboost or adjustable chainstays, and a bit slack...but i like my nomad a lot for the situation you described using it in.

Was considering last gen high tower, fits my criteria with the cs adjuster in long.
Actual seat tube angle is awful though

 

[jstuhlman]

Was considering last gen high tower, fits my criteria with the cs adjuster in long.
Actual seat tube angle is awful though

how are you accessing faster rougher trails? mine are via fire road climbs and the sta on my nomad (mk4) has never been an issue. and you won't be climbing at a bikepark, so should 't matter there.

and sorry, meant to say megatower, not hightower...

 

[MrBaker87]

Sounds like a Nicolai geometron.

 

[toodles]

Sounds like a Nicolai geometron.

Except the HA surely. Aren't they slack AF?

The Deviate looks mint. @Gary might be able to chip in with some information? (Unless they're from a rival clan in which you'll get scottish cursing, fist shaking and he'll spit on the ground at the mention of them)

I actually really want the Highlander

 

[Andeh]

Hope HB916 (fails the headset and 157)
Nomad 6 (ditto)
Transition Patrol (fails 157, head angle is a bit slacker, BB is a bit lower). Spire is a bit higher but slacker.
WAO Arrival 170 (a hair slacker both HT & ST)

 

[jstuhlman]

pivot firebird ticks a lot of your boxes too...

 

[toodles]

The Chainstay length is the hardest bit from the few i looked for.

 

[englertracing]

Sounds like a Nicolai geometron.

Nicolai nucleon g16

 

[englertracing]

pivot firebird ticks a lot of your boxes too...

Too short rear end even in M

how are you accessing faster rougher trails? mine are via fire road climbs and the sta on my nomad (mk4) has never been an issue. and you won't be climbing at a bikepark, so should 't matter there.

and sorry, meant to say megatower, not hightower...

Yeah also meant megatower
I said it because you said it lol

Will be climbing some trails via fire road
Occasional park

Love steep sta

 

[canadmos]

Banshee something or other?


Why not make your own frame? We even have a forum for that.

 

[Jm_]

Why not make your own frame? We even have a forum for that.

Out of carbon fiber.














Too soon?

 

[buckoW]

Banshee something or other?


Why not make your own frame? We even have a forum for that.

Steel enduro front triangle for the Summum rear end?

 

[buckoW]

Both of those are considerations
Mainly the raw
The list at the bottom is negotiable just bonuses.



Yeah lots actually

The Raaw is a very nice riding bike. I have one and like it a lot.

 

[englertracing]

Steel enduro front triangle for the Summum rear end?

I did have a thought of a hand made steel front triangle from ?Switzerland? Paired with a carbon rear end.

 

[HardtailHack]

Steel enduro front triangle for the Summum rear end?

There is a cotic frame that isn't too far off what the OP wants, but it's a degree too slack in the HA.

 

[buckoW]

I did have a thought of a hand made steel front triangle from ?Switzerland? Paired with a carbon rear end.

You’d do a better job of it!

 

[iRider]

If the buckoW special does not come true, maybe a Propain Tyee or Spindrift?

 

[Flo33]

Another vote for Banshee. The Titan with the long dropouts has 159 mm of travel and would check a lot of your boxes.

 

[Redwood Mulch Chucker]

also on the list,
however i had the chainstays at 441
suppose it changes alot with sag.....

Weird, 447 must have been what I measured in the garage.

But yeah, it's a grower.
About 13mm longer at sag and maxes out at 22mm longer.

 

[englertracing]

You’d do a better job of it!

I'm not sure of that.
My project bin is already overflowing as well
Van and motorcycle things, and work already cock blocks that stuff.
Building the jig... all that....

 

[englertracing]

If the buckoW special does not come true, maybe a Propain Tyee or Spindrift?

Tyee is on the list
Looks awesome except the headset only routing on the carbon frame.

 

[englertracing]

Another vote for Banshee. The Titan with the long dropouts has 159 mm of travel and would check a lot of your boxes.

Will look closely
Edit: this wasn't on the radar, now high on the list.

 

[Gary]

Looks awesome except the headset only routing on the carbon frame.