http://kettlecycles.com/?btp_product=siccc-two-piece-bicycle-brake-rotors
Surprised it's taken someone this long given the benefits.
Surprised it's taken someone this long given the benefits.
You're thinking of carbon/carbon brakes. Carbon/ceramics don't have the same issues. They're fine for street use in your car if you don't mind paying the $8k+ upgrade price.curious to see whether they really fixed the problem with carbon brakes needing awfully high temperatures to work properly...
Hasn't been a problem on motorcycles, don't see why it would be on bikes.so now instead of bending out of true, they'll shatter and splinter, potentially ruining the caliper itself in the process. A+.
for road, and possibly xc applications, sure. downhill? ha.Hasn't been a problem on motorcycles, don't see why it would be on bikes.
Downhill is where they make the most sense. Stronger braking power, no fade and no squeal from glazing.for road, and possibly xc applications, sure. downhill? ha.
besides, roadies and xc wankers are the ones who spend money on bikes like its a competition.
carbon rotor'd cars still dont perform all too well until they heat up.You're thinking of carbon/carbon brakes. Carbon/ceramics don't have the same issues. They're fine for street use in your car if you don't mind paying the $8k+ upgrade price.
do moto x bikes use them? because comparing a street bike to a DH bike isnt exactly apples to applesHasn't been a problem on motorcycles, don't see why it would be on bikes.
Pedal feedback improves as you heat em up, but they're still fine for daily driving. I don't know about you but the brakes on my DH bike heat up damn quick.carbon rotor'd cars still dont perform all too well until they heat up.
do moto x bikes use them? because comparing a street bike to a DH bike isnt exactly apples to apples
You have got be kidding with this one. Every niche has people who are guilty of this as well as people who don't give a crap. I've seen way more parking lot wankers at DH mountains than anywhere else.besides, roadies and xc wankers are the ones who spend money on bikes like its a competition.
Kettle says rotors are compatible with ALL types of pads, even with these of unknown composition.I do wonder whether you need special pads to truly take advantage,
Bending won't be an issue. Cracking fracturing etc, those are the failure modes to be concerned about. Especially when you are limited to a certain thickness and can't just layer on extra material like with a frame.Not sure about these. I think the system could be phenomenal for DH use where heat is hot and brakes are used nearly constantly. I do agree that the catastrophic phailure vs. a slight bend could be an issue, but if you're willing to spend $200 on rotors when you could have spent $40, you better be on that podium or dead.
I do wonder whether you need special pads to truly take advantage, but it's tough to say these are anything but a gimmick until they actually have trail time. Kickstarter always cracks me up, do people ever follow through?
road bikes have done well for thousands of years with rim brakes...I doubt heat dissipation will ever be that much of an issue...or was that sarcasm?Bending won't be an issue. Cracking fracturing etc, those are the failure modes to be concerned about. Especially when you are limited to a certain thickness and can't just layer on extra material like with a frame.
Road biking is probably the ideal place for them and their claimed heat dissipation improvements will be seen because of long continual descents.
From Kickstarter:Compatible sure, works right though?
interesting! I can imagine some of the TDF descents heating up brakes but they seem to manage. I've actually wondered if rim brakes are better for that (or could be made better) as they have such a huge "rotor" to dissipate heat into.Andy, no sarcasm re: road bikes. Some of those guys love riding their brakes.
A while back a video was floating around of some roadie trying out disc brakes, and they failed on him on a descent due to overheating. Granted he was using some weird adapter thing to run mechanical levers with a hydraulic caliper, but they still failed as a direct result of heat.
Clearly you haven't met me and my saints...I'm all for innovation and progressing technology, but I guess I'm a little surprised that newer generation Saints and Ice-tech rotors aren't enough for 99% of the DH market. Admittedly, I'm not coming down Mt. Psychosis, but I have previous gen Saints with 8" & 7" rotors, and fade/glazing has never been an issue for me. And trust me, if anyone uses their brakes excessively, it's me and my Octomom sized vagina...I'm practically doing trials moves on my DH runs.
In that case roadies have had carbon "rotors" (ie, rims) for years now.interesting! I can imagine some of the TDF descents heating up brakes but they seem to manage. I've actually wondered if rim brakes are better for that (or could be made better) as they have such a huge "rotor" to dissipate heat into.
Octomom had a c-section.Pretty sure that thing is tight and snappy.I'm all for innovation and progressing technology, but I guess I'm a little surprised that newer generation Saints and Ice-tech rotors aren't enough for 99% of the DH market. Admittedly, I'm not coming down Mt. Psychosis, but I have previous gen Saints with 8" & 7" rotors, and fade/glazing has never been an issue for me. And trust me, if anyone uses their brakes excessively, it's me and my Octomom sized vagina...I'm practically doing trials moves on my DH runs.
Fashion statement?Now you guys with no taste,with your "murdered out "bikes can finally address the weak link in your all too common fashion statement .
And when it rains they just die...both, the roadie and the brakes...with the brakes dying first.In that case roadies have had carbon "rotors" (ie, rims) for years now.
Hey!...first off,...they were powdercoated not anodized.Fashion statement?
Who in this thread paid multiple hundreds of dollars to annodize swing links?
Adding weight by powder coating an anodized part for looks negates any credibility you have for commenting on peoples stupid fashion sense sorry.Hey!...first off,...they were powdercoated not anodized.
2nd.I prefaced with "all too common" fashion statement of the whole,boring,all black thing that too many people think looks good.
3rd.$199 or below is NOT multiple hundreds of dollars.