Who is making the change this year. I am putting a DB air on my V10. Anyone else running a DB air on their V10?
None of those assertions are true. Are you the OffRoad teaparty? such claims!Why choose less reliability, lower performance and more frequent maintenance for a bit of weight loss? And if someone says a certain bike performs better because of the air spring then you need a new frame with a real leverage curve.
Serious question too. Not trying to make people angry.
Have a read: http://www.canecreek.com/tech-center/suspension/faqNone of those assertions are true.
A what? Is this a North American thing?Are you the OffRoad teaparty? such claims!
Don't forget the other benefits of an infinitely adjustable spring rate and flexibility to tweak the progression.Why choose less reliability, lower performance and more frequent maintenance for a bit of weight loss?
ive been on my DB Air for almost a year and have yet to have a reliability issue or had any noticeable lower performance. i have also yet to send mine in for service since there hasnt been a need for it. i did have a issue with my coil's main seal leaking but that was thankfully covered under warranty.Why choose less reliability, lower performance and more frequent maintenance for a bit of weight loss? And if someone says a certain bike performs better because of the air spring then you need a new frame with a real leverage curve.
Serious question too. Not trying to make people angry.
Well, is the Sunday a frame with a real leverage curve? Been using an Evolver ISX-6 for 2,5 years now, first on a Devinci frame, now on the Sunday. Absolutely problem-free, it works very differently than the coil Swinger 6-way i had before, very adjustable. And with both shocks i had to do maintenance once a year (i've got another bike as well, sooo...). And removing a whole lb is not something to be ignored. I'm new to the weight-weenie game, but am starting to see the benefits now!Why choose less reliability, lower performance and more frequent maintenance for a bit of weight loss? And if someone says a certain bike performs better because of the air spring then you need a new frame with a real leverage curve.
Serious question too. Not trying to make people angry.
Coil spring is pretty compressive by nature as wellprobably due to the compressive nature of the air which tends to delay the response of the hit and so to give lower vertical acceleration to the wheels (but this is only my personal opinion).
but he wont be racing on it anymore until they can iron it out they saidFor example it seems that Ryan Dungey prefers the feeling of his WP air shock in the woops sections….that are High speed shock shaft sections.
Actually no, it's not.Well, is the Sunday a frame with a real leverage curve?
Right...how's that working out for him?For example it seems that Ryan Dungey prefers the feeling of his WP air shock in the woops sections .that are High speed shock shaft sections.
It saw you two-fisted burger brandishing and collapsed in fear.I am 0/1 on air shocks and i havent even gotten to ride it yet...
http://www.downhillnews.com/display/ShowImage?imageUrl=/storage/SX R1R2 01122013.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1358707193449After many test with Rock shox Vivid Air I believe that the air is superior in big square hit absorption and give a smoothness superior to the coil model…probably due to the compressive nature of the air which tends to delay the response of the hit and so to give lower vertical acceleration to the wheels (but this is only my personal opinion).
For example it seems that Ryan Dungey prefers the feeling of his WP air shock in the woops sections….that are High speed shock shaft sections. All Supercross riders are now on Kayaba and Showa.
I strongly believe that the future of downhill is in the AIR suspensions, and probabily also for the MX...that is a power bike not human powered....where the weigh is so much important....
Excuse to all for my bad grammar
Mmmmmmmmm Zaca...
sounds like what a Boxxer owner thinksI sure as hell don't want to be worrying "Gee should I have rebuilt my fork this week? Or is my fork definitely not gonna get stuck down" right before I hit the 60 foot step up at Zaca.
I hate how people use what supercross racers use on their race bikes as evidence for what is best for mass market applications. Just because Barcia or whoever wins on an air fork does NOT make it ideal for someone who goes 50 hours in between fork rebuilds. He goes 30 minutes between suspension rebuilds, totally different world.
I sure as hell don't want to be worrying "Gee should I have rebuilt my fork this week? Or is my fork definitely not gonna get stuck down" right before I hit the 60 foot step up at Zaca.
But yeah, saving 2 pounds is totally worth risking my fork getting stuck down on that stuff and dying.
And if you ride one in real life you realize the coil version is better.If you ride a boxxer WC on the internet, it will get stuck down, and you will die.
And how performs the Idylle rare air regarding this?If you ride a boxxer WC on the internet, it will get stuck down, and you will die.
Similar to the boxxer because it's air sprung. I remember when everyone wanted the WC because it's the "World Cup" Model right!? Now actually it's an air sprung r2c2 and after a few years suddenly people complain about brake dive and such things on the wc, switching back to a coil spring. There are also pros who prefer the coil-sercion. I mean how many pros even use air shocks apart from rampage?And how performs the Idylle rare air regarding this?