Thats not really true either, but apparently OP doesnt care about cost difference. Jedi is 3150 w/ guide. So your looking a a derailleur and shifter. The new zee can be bought for $150 for both. So $3300.The price difference of the Zerode and Jedi is almost nothing when you consider a chain guide, shifter, and derailer. Oh, and don't forget the cost of replacing derailers too.
hu?Thats not really true either, but apparently OP doesnt care about cost difference. Jedi is 3150 w/ guide. So your looking a a derailleur and shifter. The new zee can be bought for $150 for both. So $3300.
Compared to the jedi's box price of $4500. Thats $1200 difference. Thats alot, in-fact thats almost the difference between buying a jedi and another used 6" AM frame or complete bike.
Also, Alifne hubs arent cheap and you certainly don't want to have to replace one of those, dunno how well they've held up in the zerode's. I assume decently as you don't hear about issues.
Zerodes website has listed at $4500. Well thats a different ballgame if they are going for $3500.hu?
The Zerode is $3500... comes with shifter and tensioner
The Jedi is $3150... plus you need a cassette, derailer, shifter and guide.
No it includes everything you need spacers, rear sprocket, shifter, hub. Yeah the US price is less on them!Zerodes website has listed at $4500. Well thats a different ballgame if they are going for $3500.
Jedi's come with guides also, the zerode requires some small rear end parts to run a standard wheel as single speed correct?
I ran the RC4, CCDB and also a proto 2013 XFUSION. The RC4 was good very easy to set-up. The Xfusion was good as well.For those of you with time spent on the zee, what shock did you pick (or prefer) and why? I've loved my PUSHed dhx, but only after it was pushed. That's why I'd be willing to give ccdb a go.
thats in new zealand dollars...Zerodes website has listed at $4500. Well thats a different ballgame if they are going for $3500.
Jedi's come with guides also, the zerode requires some small rear end parts to run a standard wheel as single speed correct?
The weight isn't noticeable when riding, they ride light with the light rear end and centralized weight. Would be cool if they were lighter, but it's really a trivial issue only intergeek haters, and jealous people seem to care much about. The Zerode performance outweighs any weight concerns. I know a guy with the option to swap to the lighter frame for next to no cost who won't bother just because of the "hassle" of swapping kit over and selling old frame(they sell easy as and he knows it).What does the zerode frame weigh?
geez why cant one for once post the weight? its not like a secret? some ppl want to know in advance what their build gonna weigh and not get told "it feels lighter"The weight isn't noticeable when riding, they ride light with the light rear end and centralized weight. Would be cool if they were lighter, but it's really a trivial issue only intergeek haters, and jealous people seem to care much about. The Zerode performance outweighs any weight concerns. I know a guy with the option to swap to the lighter frame for next to no cost who won't bother just because of the "hassle" of swapping kit over and selling old frame(they sell easy as and he knows it).
The weight of the frame is hard to compare with other frames because of the hub.geez why cant one for once post the weight? its not like a secret? some ppl want to know in advance what their build gonna weigh and not get told "it feels lighter"
Meh. I think I've had 2 lbs of old inner tube wrapped around stays before and never thunk much about it. Add a GoPro with Eye of Mine mount...wow. thats alot.
I didn't know the weight. Nor care.geez why cant one for once post the weight? its not like a secret? some ppl want to know in advance what their build gonna weigh and not get told "it feels lighter"
I've ridden a few now and I don't think they magically disguise the extra weight that they carry. But let's work it out.geez why cant one for once post the weight? its not like a secret? some ppl want to know in advance what their build gonna weigh and not get told "it feels lighter"
Subtract from that the CCDB + Steel (476g + ~500g = 976g), and we get 6690g (14.75lbs). The shock cover and rear axle are part of any frame weight, so to compare to conventional frames we just have to subtract the parts below. I'll use the parts I've run for years, but feel free to substitute your own values:The frame, CCDB + Steel, Alfine, shifter and cable, shock cover, and rear axle weigh 16.9 lbs.
That is with CCDB and steel spring.Is that including shock/spring? If so please specify parts/weights so they can be subtracted.
This. But honestly this whole argument is getting out of hand. Want great suspension and no maintenance-buy a zerode, want lightweight bikes-get a conventional bike.That is with CCDB and steel spring.
I use to be all about building a light bike. I had my 951 at 39lbs. My Zerode weighs 42.8 lbs with Boxxer Team. I could get it to 40-41, but I really can't tell its heavier than my 951.
My Zerode is the older version too, so its about 1.5 lbs heavier than the newer version.