[RaID]

im looking at getting a D2
it appears that im in-between sizes

the M/L fits ok except its a little tight along jaw, especially compared to my current M Giro Mad Max, and a Remedy i tried.

on the other hand the L/XL D2 is bit too loose overall on the head, abit too much moving around

Now the question is

If i go with the M/L will the pads around the jaw wear in a bit over time to reduced this tightness? or can i get smaller jaw pads?

If i go with the XL/XXL will the extra pads provided to make the "custom" fit make the helemet that much smaller that it wont move around?

my head is 59-60cm just above my eye brow line

i guess i could always go with the Remedy and not make a compromise for fit

 

[ElTORO]

Go with what fits best. But yah the jaw pads do break in a bit over time like everything.

 

[Nick]

my head is 23.5" and I wear an xl-xxl.
I used the fit pads TLD provided and have a perfect fit.

 

[Sandwich]

Resurrecting this thread as I'm interested in a D2. I currently ride a medium giro remedy that fits well but a bit snug. Virtually all of my helmets are mediums. My head measures about a 23.5" but I'll reconfirm when I get home. Looks like a M/L should work for me? Do the D2s typically fit loose or snug?

 

[jonKranked]

d2's are as unrideable as 26" wheels.

 

[4130biker]

Resurrecting this thread as I'm interested in a D2. I currently ride a medium giro remedy that fits well but a bit snug. Virtually all of my helmets are mediums. My head measures about a 23.5" but I'll reconfirm when I get home. Looks like a M/L should work for me? Do the D2s typically fit loose or snug?

I did the exact same swap years ago after I lost my M Remedy in a sketchy creek crossing, and went to the M/L d2 and it was great. Comes way up on the back of your neck, unlike the Giro, but super comfortable.

edit: I would have a D3, but I'm between their M and L sizes

edit edit: Bell's full 9 fits good if you're between M and L in the D3.

 

[Sandwich]

Awesome! Do you mean it's lower on the back of your head, or higher up? Was the Giro snug on you?

My remedy fits fine if a little snug, but I realized it's like 10 years old the other day, and I've wrecked once or twice in it... I like the transfer 9 and cipher, but the d2 is a fair bit lighter and not too much more expensive.

 

[4130biker]

D2 is cut higher in the back than the Remedy, almost where the base of your skull starts. It doesn't really affect anything, it was just the first thing that I noticed as being different.

D2s are a good deal, and look freakin awesome, but I went with the slightly uglier, and better fitting (than d3) full 9.
I also wanted to upgrade to the ASTM DH status
Found one on super closeout for $120 bucks a year or so ago.

And the Giro did fit me snug, someone once said I had chipmunk cheeks in that helmet...

 

[Sandwich]

The newer D2s have ASTM DH ratings...1952 or whatever...I think.

I'd do the Full 9 if I had the cash, but the cheaper helmets are more in my wheelhouse. Even the D2 is a bit pricey, but it might save some weight, and Jenson and I aren't on speaking terms right now. 120 is a helluva deal.

 

[StiHacka]

How about this deal on Kali Avatar? http://www.cambriabike.com/Kali-Protectives-Avatar-Helmet-Freaky-Large-100128678.asp?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cse&utm_term=100128678&gclid=CM-t_-a8sMUCFdQRHwodFlIAxA

It has the ASTM F1952 cert as well. http://www.kaliprotectives.com/product/bike/avatar/

 

[4130biker]

The newer D2s have ASTM DH ratings...1952 or whatever...I think.

I'd do the Full 9 if I had the cash, but the cheaper helmets are more in my wheelhouse. Even the D2 is a bit pricey, but it might save some weight, and Jenson and I aren't on speaking terms right now. 120 is a helluva deal.

Ehhhh, they aren't as robust as the new generation of DH helmets is my point. But anyway, D2 is a sweet helmet. I am similar to you. I want the fancy stuff, but I wait until it's a screamin deal

 

[Mo(n)arch]

Why don't try the cheap offerings from Specialized (Dissident) or Bell (Transfer 9).
No carbon, much cheaper then the top end offerings, safer then the D2.
Never had a D2, but one of my best friends. The helmet went from snug and perfect fit to feeling like a cooking pot in half a year.
The cheek pads are really low quality foam.

 

[kickstand]

My wife just ordered a D2, looking forward to fondling one.

I where a Fly F2 Carbon, was less expensive than the Troy Lee offerings and I absolutely love the fit of it. They're blowing out some of the older stock at a few online retailers for $150ish

Yeah, it's a "moto" helmet and not a "bike" helmet, but I really like mine.

http://www.btosports.com/p/FLY-RACING-2013-F2-CARBON-ACETYLENE-HELMET?gdftrk=gdfV27323_a_7c1416_a_7c3889_a_7c20770/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=GS_holidayproducts&utm_content=19246931282&utm_term=&matchtype=&adposition=1o1&device=c&adtype=pla&product_id=20770&product_country=US&gclid=CjwKEAjwvbGqBRCs3eH4o5C74CYSJAB3TODsUe3lJuWZEg6VHCCuBC_Pi_qxQvYhBICEIXYngs4ZEhoCmS7w_wcB

 

[Sandwich]

How about this deal on Kali Avatar? http://www.cambriabike.com/Kali-Protectives-Avatar-Helmet-Freaky-Large-100128678.asp?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cse&utm_term=100128678&gclid=CM-t_-a8sMUCFdQRHwodFlIAxA

It has the ASTM F1952 cert as well. http://www.kaliprotectives.com/product/bike/avatar/

That's a great deal, and that helmet is super light...but it's also SUPER ugly...and as I mentioned on the lift, I haven't had the best experience with Kali products. My knee/shin guards split right down the middle without ever wrecking. Luckily I bought them from JRA and they were replaced at no cost. They fit well but I wouldn't buy them again for lack of QC.

Ehhhh, they aren't as robust as the new generation of DH helmets is my point. But anyway, D2 is a sweet helmet. I am similar to you. I want the fancy stuff, but I wait until it's a screamin deal

D2s are not as robust? Or do you mean the older ones? I know some were not 1952 rated, and that's a no-no in my book.

Why don't try the cheap offerings from Specialized (Dissident) or Bell (Transfer 9).
No carbon, much cheaper then the top end offerings, safer then the D2.
Never had a D2, but one of my best friends. The helmet went from snug and perfect fit to feeling like a cooking pot in half a year.
The cheek pads are really low quality foam.

The dissident has a weird roc-loc function in the back that I thought was incredibly stupid in a full face helmet. I also seemed to be in between sizes, nothing fit until the entire thing got too small. The transfer 9 I had my eye on, I've always liked giro helmets, and bells are practically the same thing.

Interesting on the D2 quality notes...I always thought they were better, that's why I wanted one...

 

[Sandwich]

Yeah, it's a "moto" helmet and not a "bike" helmet, but I really like mine.

I'm hooked on the 1952 standard. It makes sense to me as it's more substantial than a CPSC bike helmet and less stiff than a DOT helmet. Plus, they tend to be lighter and better ventilated, while still offering substantial protection.

 

[kickstand]

I'm hooked on the 1952 standard. It makes sense to me as it's more substantial than a CPSC bike helmet and less stiff than a DOT helmet. Plus, they tend to be lighter and better ventilated, while still offering substantial protection.

yeah that's fair. I honestly don't really look too closely at the standards, maybe next time around I will.

Mine is fairly light (probably not carbon XC lid light, but it's lighter than a few older moto helmets I have kicking around) and it's never crazy hot, it actually is fairly decently ventilated.

 

[Sandwich]

yeah that's fair. I honestly don't really look too closely at the standards, maybe next time around I will.

Mine is fairly light (probably not carbon XC lid light, but it's lighter than a few older moto helmets I have kicking around) and it's never crazy hot, it actually is fairly decently ventilated.

I think it's quite a personal thing, but the logic behind the standard worked for me.

 

[kickstand]

Agree, everyone has their own logic behind a lot of purchases. Ironically I've always just trusted helmets, though they protect our most valuable asset.

 

[4130biker]

The newer generation of DH helmets (d3, full9) is more substantial than a D2. If you check them out side to side, you'll see that the D3 sits between a D2 and a moto helmet. Pretty sure the D3 weighs more and it's not for looks.
I was not aware of any changes to the D2, as far as I know it's the same helmet as in pre- D3. I'm not saying it's a bad helmet, but being the one of the lightest and smallest outer shell around, something's gotta give.

 

[Mo(n)arch]

Interesting on the D2 quality notes...I always thought they were better, that's why I wanted one...

I really thought that it's a known issue with the D2. The foam in the cheek pads is the achilles tendon of that helmet. I for one can't stand a helmet that hasn't a snug fit.

 

[Sandwich]

Whelp, thanks to @sti_hacka's link, I found a Transfer 9 in size L for $80, free shipping, in a color that I can stand to have on my head. Nice link! Should fit my 58.5cm head, and it's a bell which has fit me well in the past.

 

[4130biker]

Here's a side by side of the retired d2 and full9. You can see why my full 9 was on close-out by the paint job

 

[StiHacka]

I found a Transfer 9 in size L for $80, free shipping, in a color that I can stand to have on my head.

I am kinda disappointed you did not go with the yellow/purple hydra scheme!

 

[4130biker]

I am kinda disappointed you did not go with the yellow/purple hydra scheme! :lol:

I mean, is there really any other way to go??? Seems like a no brainer to me!

 

[Sandwich]

View attachment 119764 Here's a side by side of the retired d2 and full9. You can see why my full 9 was on close-out by the paint job

yeah, that's huge and ugly. Good choice! I always hated the way my remedy made me look like a bobblehead, so the narrower profile of the D2 was appealing, but I agree, that's almost an inch on either side.

 

[4130biker]

Yeah, the "bowling ball head" has always been the downfall of bell/giro. The have gotten better at disguising it, but it's still there!

 

[tomasis7]

d2's are as unrideable as 26" wheels.

It's 29er incompatible as d2 is old now.

Only d3 which is compatible with enduro 29!

 

[MarkDH]

Agree with the D2 build quality comments. The standard of materials, gluing, QC etc. on a D2, I've seen better on £50 helmets. They look good but that's about it. If the newest Giro had been out at the time I bought the D2 I would've gone for that instead. The D3 seems better, but still seen mates getting the superglue out for rubber edging and so on. TLD = fashion>quality IMO, won't buy again.

 

[Gary]

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!!

Cycling is ALL about the fashion.


HTF else could you convince someone to wear a £300 plastic toilet seat round their neck sober ?

 

[TrumbullHucker]

that feeling when you just bought a new D2 for $150 and its awesome

huehuehue