Hey what do you guys think of saint brakes? I live in Santa Barbara so its pretty steep and rocky. Let me know what you think, thanks. Would i be getting more power out of saints then lets say, hays mags/champaines(what i have right now.)
I basically agree with everything mentioned, except what i have removed.Tootrikky said:I have used hayes for the last 3 yrs and switched to Saints this year.
Things I noticed
-Definite Better Modulation
-Slightly Better Power
-Way easier to bleed
-Mineral Oil doesn't ruin paint but Shimano specific is hard to find
-Lever Pivot doesn't get sloppy like Hayes do
-Reach Adjust does not work it's way in like Hayes
-Levers are not split clamp like Hayes which sucks maintenance & adj wise
nope just run 6 bolt shimano rotorsmtnbrider said:For christmas, my friend might get the saint kit for his scott high octane. DH SB RIDER, getting saint brakes means you will have to replace your CK hubs w/ Saints.
No it does not, you can use regular 6-bolt rotors from shimano, hayes, etc.mtnbrider said:For christmas, my friend might get the saint kit for his scott high octane. DH SB RIDER, getting saint brakes means you will have to replace your CK hubs w/ Saints.
What?mtnbrider said:For christmas, my friend might get the saint kit for his scott high octane. DH SB RIDER, getting saint brakes means you will have to replace your CK hubs w/ Saints.
wood-dog said:I don't mean to step on your post but I wanted to know if Saint brakes work with XT levers
Yes, just make sure you have the right lines for your levers, the banjo at the caliper should be the same. If you already have XT's you should only need the calipers but I am pretty sure they sell them packaged with rotors. Stupid shimano... :mumble:wood-dog said:I don't mean to step on your post but I wanted to know if Saint brakes work with XT levers
All the shimano levers and calipers are interchangable, you just need the the proper fittings for the hoses.wood-dog said:I don't mean to step on your post but I wanted to know if Saint brakes work with XT levers
Tootrikky said:Yes-All Shimano Hyd Levers and Calipers are interchangable
Wow, I thought you'd never switch to anything other than a diff Hayes model, just from what I've read here in RM.Transcend said:I have ridden hayes mags since they day they were released (i still have ORIGINAL champagnes lying around).
I loved my hayes to death until i got a set of saints..i will never go back.
Um no, completely wrong. 100% wrong.mtnbrider said:For christmas, my friend might get the saint kit for his scott high octane. DH SB RIDER, getting saint brakes means you will have to replace your CK hubs w/ Saints.
Ya man, trust me, I thought the exact same thing. I absolutely loved my hayes, no question. A good friend of mine hooked me up with a full set of saints to try as he hated seeing me on my beat up old hayes (which still worked great). I was more then impressed, to say the least.Slacker said:Wow, I thought you'd never switch to anything other than a diff Hayes model, just from what I've read here in RM.
So, have you put the Saint thru the paces and down some long runs.... no problems with mineral oil or anything?
Stock lines?
Which rotors are you running with them?
Best tip I got from an ex shimano skunkworks member, was to run one sintered and one organic pad. Then you really do get the best of both worlds.bomberboy11 said:In response to the question comparing the Avid Juicies:
If you want power, go with the Saints, they are ridiculously powerful, and most people locally who ride them actually wind up putting in the weaker pads.
If you want modulation, stick with the Juicies (what I'm riding now). They take a lot of energy to lock up (compared to the Saints) so if you think that you aren't getting much power out of them you just have to squeeze a little harder and just remember you probably wont lock your wheel up. They just seem to have a much longer modulation range.
mcA896 said:buy hopes.
Brian has two accounts here.snoopz666 said:
buy hopes, best brake ever.
Jeremy R said:Brian has two accounts here.
I thought that was against the rules.
Total tangent, but I am still running my first pair of discs - some champagne hayes. They are still absolutely flawless, and are the only brakeset I've ever owned (of MANY) that has NEVER once given me any problems or malfunctions... they've never even really needed bleeding. I've only bled them when I switched bikes and had to change hoses.Transcend said:(i still have ORIGINAL champagnes lying around).
true but at the same time i think theres one mech here that actually knows anything about hope, the rest havent even seen one. for bleeding read the instructions, anything else, find a compentent mech and get him to do it.DH SB RIDER said:People have been telling me that the hopes are a pain to get parts for. I have also spoken to people who have said that you should be a mechanic if your going to own hopes, because there so hard to work on. Is that true and are the mono 6 ti as powerfull as the saints?
They make a good amount of difference as far as line swelling and expansion goes. If the Hydro line can't expand then you'll have a firmer feeling lever. I changed to GRC levers on my Hayes and it helped some as I didn't feel a problem with the lines BUT the goodrich stuff would be next on my list of things to do.DH SB RIDER said:Thanks. A lot of you are talking about those goodridge lines, do they make a big difference, and how much do they cost?
Same with me. My original Hayes Nines from almost 2 years of hard riding ago are still going strong. A few new pads, but original everything else.ohio said:Total tangent, but I am still running my first pair of discs - some champagne hayes. They are still absolutely flawless, and are the only brakeset I've ever owned (of MANY) that has NEVER once given me any problems or malfunctions... they've never even really needed bleeding. I've only bled them when I switched bikes and had to change hoses.
They may lack a little modulation, and the lever doesn't fit like my hopes, but I'll never get rid of them. WAY too reliable.
Same thing here, i had originals on one of my bikes..all I did was change the lines for goodridge. Most dependable damn parts I have had on any bike..that includes just about every part that makes up a bike.ohio said:Total tangent, but I am still running my first pair of discs - some champagne hayes. They are still absolutely flawless, and are the only brakeset I've ever owned (of MANY) that has NEVER once given me any problems or malfunctions... they've never even really needed bleeding. I've only bled them when I switched bikes and had to change hoses.
They may lack a little modulation, and the lever doesn't fit like my hopes, but I'll never get rid of them. WAY too reliable.