One of the truest and most accurate statements ever made by anyone.And of course, you can't ask a logical question to a fired up cop...
Let us know how that works out for you if we don't see it on America's Funniest Videos first.I'm going to defend myself like he's anyone else.
Are you saying that if you truly feel like you've done nothing wrong and suddenly you felt in danger for your well-being, that you'd do nothing?Let us know how that works out for you if we don't see it on America's Funniest Videos first.
That doesn't justify the cops' actions. Same deal as the guy on the bike riding away from the airport. He probobly could have avoided what happened, but his wise ass remarks didn't justify the what the cop did to him....with sh*thead kids that don't realize what happens when you make cops nervous.
Guess what kids, skateboarding IS a crime if there's a law passed against it.
Besides running, what are you gonna do? Attack a cop?Are you saying that if you truly feel like you've done nothing wrong and suddenly you felt in danger for your well-being, that you'd do nothing?
I've also learned that if you run, they'll just grab one of your friends who will then just rat you out. Simple polite, yes sir, no sir's are all that are needed. It's just about fostering a sense of respect (earned or not).Besides running, what are you gonna do? Attack a cop?
That always works out swell.
Running away sounds like the worst option. I agree that legally, it's a can of worms, but don't be surprised when people who don't deserved to get tasered start defending themselves as soon as a cop pulls his weapon.Besides running, what are you gonna do? Attack a cop?
That always works out swell.
You're an idiot.Running away sounds like the worst option. I agree that legally, it's a can of worms, but don't be surprised when people who don't deserved to get tasered start defending themselves as soon as a cop pulls his weapon.
Sooner or later, it'll happen and will be proved that the cop acted incorrectly and the civilian will get away with self-defense.
That's why PDs, mayors need to get proactive about this, to keep the public's faith.
Well, nice response there chucky.You're an idiot.
TRANSLATED: I misunderstood what you meant, didn't care enough to follow-up, and wanted to feel superior, so here's an insult.What does that mean?
My guess is that DRB thinks LordOpie isn't very smart ... but that is just a guess.What does that mean?You're an idiot.
You are an utterly foolish or senseless person.Care to elaborate?
So you're saying that the police has ZERO Public Relations issues? You're saying that a simple pro-active solution is not necessary, that there's no chance that the police are losing the respect of the public and that there's no real chance of the situation escalating over the next 10 years?You are an utterly foolish or senseless person.
Yep, Im sure that no one is going to his store because of all the skateboarding going on.Hot Springs Officer On Administrative Leave, After Skateboarding Arrests
Reported by: Stephanie Jackson, KARK 4 News
Tuesday, Jun 26, 2007 @01:25pm
"I think it's pretty fair 'cause there's signs posted everywhere that say no skateboarding on the sidewalks, not only that but I work downtown and it's running away all my business," says area resident John Thompson.
I deal with teenage kids on a daily basis for 10 and 1/2 months of the year.
these kids may have been braking the "no skatebording on the sidewalks law" but from what I saw the kids were pretty respectful and asking very resonable questions. It wasn't until the Cop seamed like he was being pretty forceful for no reason and the kid with the still camera said " he was choking (name) and I got a picture of it." no one was being disrespectful in my oppinion... and then it seamed as if the cop felt threatened by the kid having evidence of brutality, and he snapped... I could kinda see the turning point. If I were the kid with the camera... I probably would have run as well.
after that... all the kids were just standing around still pretty respectful! Then the cop went off cause the kids were asking questions!
I don't think that is right. I think this cop has some issues that need to be worked out! He def. shouldn't be back on the job with his lack of communication with people skills, and his lack of self control!
With all of His posts that I have read, I think Manimal would have probably talked a little more to the kids and explained some more of what was going on etc. rather than tackling the kids and then saying "look see the blood on my knee? that is Battery!" I love that line.
Ohh yeah, thats probably becuase there arent many sidewalksI have had a few run ins with the cops in my area. The do not mind bikers and skaters, they have had to put up with dudes like aaron chase and ludwick riding around back in the day so i think many of them know how to deal with bikers. Also up here people are more chill, not all beating eachother down for skating on a sidewalk.
nah, being an ex-skater (not a good one) and with as much street riding as i do, i just tell them where to go skate that no one will hassle them. skaters don't realize the politics and money that go into a lot of building structures in cities and why local jurisdictions make laws preventing skating in those areas. the town i live in built a skatepark to help keep the kids off of the important structures.looks like young punks getting what they should........i bet manimal would have just shot the kid..............
Really? What about the bicyclist in MN just recently? We don't know all the facts, but it sure sounds like the cop was a c0ck.i have yet to hear a legitimate story of alleged police brutality that didn't begin with the "victim" breaking the law in the first place. "i was only breaking into this house when the officer tazed me and i fell onto a sharp stick and cut my leg.....i'm gonna sue!" so the moral is, take responsibility for yourself and you'll never have a run-in with the police anyway.
Retards are absurdly strong.Like shooting a retarded kid at 20 feet in the chest cuz he had a butter knife.
Seriously?Retards are absurdly strong.
He could have thrown that butter knife straight through the cop's chest.
Yeah, because I am always serious on here.Seriously?
i agree completely as long as the officer receives the same type of investigation given to any other lawbreaker.What I am saying is that those bad seeds -- 1 in a 1000? -- should be dealt with severely by the PD and mayor's office.
i also agree but until the citys/counties/townships realize this and pay us as the professionals we have to be, you won't see much change in the recruitment policy. (although, most, if not all agencies nowadays require a college degree)Since this is one of the hardest jobs in the world, I am completely against affirmative action for cops. Only the absolutely best should be allowed on the streets.
and most cops will resort to this type of enforcement if the situation permits, but there are plenty of times where small talk is just not possible and immediate control must be taken back.I like the fact that you take the time to explain to kids the politics and that you offer a solution. I also think that all cops should take that stance and if they did what you do, not only would situations not escalate, but also increase the relationship between authority and civilians.
are you nuts? could you avoid any type of emotion dealing with this crap every day? cops must live by the "reasonable-ness" code. we get tons of training in "passive control," it's called "verbal judo" but there is a point when going round and round with "passive control" just doesn't get the job done.Most situations should never escalate, cops should get more training in passive control. Cops should never ever get emotional about anything. Yes, they're human, but they need more training if they ever get frustrated or upset.
shooting anyone at 21' or less that is wielding a knife is always justified regardless of the persons mental capacity. sure, the officer could have tried to talk the subject down and most will try that, however, it is a basic fact of phyics and physiology that a person can cover 21' and stab an officer before he/she can draw and fire their weapon. even the supreme court recognizes the "21' rule." did the cop know the kid was handicapped? could a butter knife kill you L.O? i'm pretty sure it could. i'm not debating that particular incident, just showing you that most civilians don't understand the dangerous possibilities that are present with an armed subject. all most people see is some cop shooting/tazing some poor dude that just deserved to be heardReally? What about the bicyclist in MN just recently? We don't know all the facts, but it sure sounds like the cop was a c0ck.
Like shooting a retarded kid at 20 feet in the chest cuz he had a butter knife.
Those stories should NEVER happen. The excuse that cops are human is insufficient. Cops should never get emotional about a situation and never have such poor judgement.
You can't just program human nature out of a person, especially on a municipal little city level. The military can't even train that out on a Navy Seal level.Those stories should NEVER happen. The excuse that cops are human is insufficient. Cops should never get emotional about a situation and never have such poor judgement.
they're trained to shoot to stop the threat, not to kill, but yes they are trained to shoot center mass.Yeah, because I am always serious on here.
On a serious note though, Did you know that cops will not shoot you in the knee or any of that stuff you see in the movies?
They are taught to only fire their weapons to kill.
and people such as Frank Borelli have furthered that study and show that people are capable of action for up to 16 seconds after being shot thru the heart! http://www.borelliconsulting.com/articles/21feet.htm , good read for you law dogi
shooting anyone at 21' or less that is wielding a knife is always justified regardless of the persons mental capacity. sure, the officer could have tried to talk the subject down and most will try that, however, it is a basic fact of phyics and physiology that a person can cover 21' and stab an officer before he/she can draw and fire their weapon. even the supreme court recognizes the "21' rule." did the cop know the kid was handicapped? could a butter knife kill you L.O? i'm pretty sure it could. i'm not debating that particular incident, just showing you that most civilians don't understand the dangerous possibilities that are present with an armed subject. all most people see is some cop shooting/tazing some poor dude that just deserved to be heard