Pawls
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Hadley has a new trials hub with 108 engagement points (which is the most of any hub currently available), but I'm not sure how many pawls that equates to. Hadley, Chris King, Hope, DT Swiss, and Ringle hubs all have 4 or more pawls, which makes them all very fast-engaging hubs. Personally, I'm a Ringle fan.
The Hadley's pawls are offset, so only one engages at a time. I'd be sitting back and seeing how they go on trials bikes for a couple of years before I thought about buying one.
king hubs dont have pawls
hadley only have 3 pawls and on the trials hub they are offset so you only have one pawl engaging at a time.
pawls arnt what determines how fast the hub is because on most hubs they enagage at the same time. Its the teeth that determine it. Hadley has 36 so do hope, ringle, and profile. Dtswiss has only slightly more then shimano
hadley only have 3 pawls and on the trials hub they are offset so you only have one pawl engaging at a time.
pawls arnt what determines how fast the hub is because on most hubs they enagage at the same time. Its the teeth that determine it. Hadley has 36 so do hope, ringle, and profile. Dtswiss has only slightly more then shimano
You ride around with a swarm of angry bumblebee's following you.Kanter said:
Not that it's an entirely bad thing!
dexterq20 said:
Your kidding man, that is amazing talk about responsive, my old ringle's had 3 and i thought they did pretty well...are you guys sure about mavic only having 2 how can they feel so good then? I have never felt like they were slow to engage at all
...and are also impossible to obtain anymore!dw said:
Manufacturing for the Stealth hubs seems to have gone up in smoke... Wish they'd start making 'em again, I'm pretty interested in checking one out.
Kanter, CK and the new Hadley hubs are the fastest engaging hubs around. The CK has a very strong engagement mechanism because all of the teeth engage themselves simultaneously vs. having one, two, or three pawls grabbing the teeth. The Hadley has more engagement points, though.
Both hubs are pretty noisy.
No pawls on the RB Design Hubs either - they came out in the late 90s. Tried them many years ago. Work great until water gets past the seals and the clutch slips. Probably have that fixed by now:
They call their clutch "ROLLIN´ROLL" (see flash animation of pedaling and idling)
They call their clutch "ROLLIN´ROLL" (see flash animation of pedaling and idling)
They also have a special cassette body called "WAVELOC"
The WAVELOC was developed to prevent pressing of guide's cassette to freewheel what complicated assembling and disassembling of the cassette. That happened mainly on freewheel made of aluminum alloy or steel.
WAVELOC, and a material we used prevents this undesirable effect. There ist almost no deformation only a slight dent at the edge of the cassette. But it has no effect on function or disassembling of the cassette
Profiles are rocking 48 engagement points now, not 36.
i have read mixed things about the stealth hub on trials websites. not sure what variety of makers there is and if they build them any different.
according to unrealcycles.com, the new hadley engages in 3 degrees. not sure how many prawls there are and how many engage at one time, but 3 degrees is fast.
according to unrealcycles.com, the new hadley engages in 3 degrees. not sure how many prawls there are and how many engage at one time, but 3 degrees is fast.
was looking at specs for those and the only ones that could handle the torque were about as tall as the hub itself. I wonder what their torque rating is.dw said:
I heard the same thing about the Stealth units. Reported, they weren't holding up.
Has anyone ever tried this roller clutch hub from shimano. They've been available for a while, but I don't think they're disc compatable.
could be they havent gotten the design strong/light enough for the high end, otherwise i dont see why they would hold back on it, especially with the new lines they've introduced.Incubus said:
i think thats the lx slient clutch hub. Its instant engagment but heavy and not very strong.
Ding, ding, we have a winner! Reliability has been an issue, hopefully they'll work it out soon.Incubus said:
Lots of people have blown them up and when they go, you have a fixed gear. Hope you can time your pedal strokes well
I'd think thats much worse than the typical forward freewheel scenario
depens, CK has 72 points, and Hadley has 36 or 108 (somebody said that all their hubs are 108 now?).Kanter said:
Dee Max, X-max, Ksyrium's all use the same FTS freehub design.Kanter said:
Two larger Prawl's and only one engages at a time. I've ran one for 4 yrs and over 2000miles on a SS bike before I had to replace the hub. Not because I was having issues with the prawls but because the bearing on the end of the hub that supports the freehub body ripped off. Its a pretty reliable system, but I'd rather run a CK... and do now.