[steelforeel]

I'm tooling around with an idea of building wheels with Deemax Ultimate rims and Hope pro 2 hubs. I have few questions regarding this.

1. Do the Deemax spoke nipples thread into the rim?
2. If so could I use EX823 nipple inserts to replace the Deemax nipples and use regular spokes and nipples?
3. Does anybody know how much the Deemax Ultimate rim weights?

 

[tuumbaq]

I'm tooling around with an idea of building wheels with Deemax Ultimate rims and Hope pro 2 hubs. I have few questions regarding this.

1. Do the Deemax spoke nipples thread into the rim?
2. If so could I use EX823 nipple inserts to replace the Deemax nipples and use regular spokes and nipples?
3. Does anybody know how much the Deemax Ultimate rim weights?

Woulnt want to burst your bubble but Im pretty sure the Deemax rim as 28 holes...and I dont think Hopes makes a hub to match it...You can NOT use regular nipples with the Deemax rim either.That said Im no wheel buiders and have no idea if it can be done but it sure doesn look very promising I'd say

 

[steelforeel]

Deemax rear wheel has 32 spokes. I know I can't just go and use regular nipples with the rim... That's why I wonder if the EX823 nipple inserts would fit and allow me to use regular nipples.

 

[cableguy]

Deemax spokes have special nipples already on it, and they are straight pull. Can't imagine using Hope hubs with them.

 

[steelforeel]

Yeah I know that. What I'm really wondering is if it would be possible to replace the deemax nipples with nipple inserts from Mavic EX823 rim. That would allow me to use regular nipples just like I would with EX823 rims.

 

[82DemoRider]

Yes it can be done. Good luck.

 

[steelforeel]

Yes it can be done. Good luck.

Sweet! Did you use the EX823 nipple inserts, because those nipples look like the deemax ones?

 

[Ithnu]

I thought about trying that last summer and gave up. I just bought DeeMax instead.

 

[82DemoRider]

Sweet! Did you use the EX823 nipple inserts, because those nipples look like the deemax ones?

Honestly, it's far more complicated than just the inserts. Buy some DeeMax.

*It will save you some cash, but how much is your time worth?

 

[steelforeel]

Honestly, it's far more complicated than just the inserts.

Would you care to elaborate?

 

[82DemoRider]

Would you care to elaborate?

No. Sorry.

 

[Tetreault]

Why would you want to do this?

 

[al-irl]

im guessing you used deemax nipples not the 823s. Not much experience with the newer deemax but I know with the mavic road spokes and nipples that the nipple contains a brass nylock nut that the spoke screws into. The nipple can then spin freely on the nut and then screw in and out of the rim without changing the effective spoke length. So you'd probably need to get the deemax spokes and strip them and then pop the nipples and brass nuts onto the normal spokes that will work with your chosen hubs. It seems like an awfull lot of hassle and if you were paying someone to do it probably cheaper to just buy deemaxs off the shelf.

 

[al-irl]

Why would you want to do this?

because mavic hubs are a bit pants

 

[Carnaza]

So I guess it's possible to buy just the deemax ultimate rims ???

Where and how much ??

 

[Tetreault]

because mavic hubs are a bit pants

I was more so referring to the need to run the deemax rims? seems like a lot of work and a lot of money for not a whole lot of gain. why not just run 823's? or if weight is the issue perhaps a 823 rear and a 819 front?

 

[Ithnu]

So I guess it's possible to buy just the deemax ultimate rims ???

Where and how much ??

My team is sponsored by Mavic, the only place is from your LBS. You won't find them online and you can't order them from Mavic. That's why I said I looked into it and gave up. It was easier to just order their wheelset.

And the rims are pricey.

 

[Carnaza]

My team is sponsored by Mavic, the only place is from your LBS. You won't find them online and you can't order them from Mavic. That's why I said I looked into it and gave up. It was easier to just order their wheelset.

And the rims are pricey.

Yeah, I thought they were going to be expensive and hard to get.... That's why I asked....

I'll stick with my ex823.... Unless mavic start to sell them separately...

 

[al-irl]

i presume they are available as a spare, but knowing Mavic they could take months to arrive.

 

[steelforeel]

Thanks to everybody clearing this up for me. Seems like it's not worth it since I'd have to buy the deemax spokes... those aren't really cheap. The rims I could get separately in somewhat reasonable price, but...

 

[82DemoRider]

I started them and 1/2 way through the process realized it was way more of a pain than I thought. For the record they weigh 2,200 grams. Still 50 grams heavier than DeeMax.

I just saw this question and had put up the picture to brag really. I have to justify going through the headache somehow right?

 

[al-irl]

was my guess in the process correct

 

[82DemoRider]

was my guess in the process correct

You missed two vital points.

 

[al-irl]

care to enlighten me just encase im ever really bored and have loads of spare cash someday.

 

[san_andreas]

This is a 32 h Deemax rim laced to a Chris King hub:

It is no problem to order Deemax rims from Mavic. They are normal spare parts, only rather expensive.