It bothers me because I have a feeling they don't look at false accusations. While the sheer number might have the impact they were looking for, I don't think it's a fair representation.1 out of every 2,157 police officers will be accused of murder, manslaughter, homicide, or causing a fatality unnecessarily in an act of assault or brutality.
I'm also bothered by the "accusation" aspect as opposed to being reprimanded, convicted, etc...This is a stat that bothers me:
It bothers me because I have a feeling they don't look at false accusations. While the sheer number might have the impact they were looking for, I don't think it's a fair representation.
ExactlyI'm against the police because it is socialist institution and the Nazis also had police.
Exactly. Nearly every use of force by police, legitimate and illegitimate, will generate an accusation that it was unwarranted, either by the subject or by his surviving relations.This is a stat that bothers me:
It bothers me because I have a feeling they don't look at false accusations. While the sheer number might have the impact they were looking for, I don't think it's a fair representation.
well said. i believe the actual number of legitimate sustained misconduct findings is less than 1/2 of 1%, (according to a state lesson plan on ethics i have to teach and i don't have the lesson plan here with me to look up their source)Exactly. Nearly every use of force by police, legitimate and illegitimate, will generate an accusation that it was unwarranted, either by the subject or by his surviving relations.
No one says "Well, yeah, it was totally legit when the cop hit me with his baton; I'd threatened him and cocked my arm to punch him."
No one says, "Yeah, it was totally legit when the police officer shot my son, because my son had tried to run him over with a car."
They say "POLICE BRUTALITY!"
This is not to say police brutality and/or corruption does not exist. I'm saying that the statistics as used here do not tell us anything in particular.
I'd rather just look at a small region and look at the actual complaints filed and the incident reports from the officers.I'm also bothered by the "accusation" aspect as opposed to being reprimanded, convicted, etc...
so, can we just off that 1% and get on with things?and a quote from the recent Deniro/Pacino cop flick, Righteous Kill, that says it better than anything i've ever heard:
"Our job is keeping 99% of the population safe from the other 1%. Problem is we have to spend half our lives with that 1%, and the better we do that job, the less the other 99 think they need us. Their clueless, the only ones paying attention on the streets are the cops and the criminals. Everyone is else is just going somewhere, or shopping." -Deniro in Righteous Kill
unfortunately, off'ing that 1% would make us part of the 1% wouldn't it?so, can we just off that 1% and get on with things?
ok, shooting from the hip here...
The thought occurs to me that we might have the reverse scenario that we do with social workers (as they are known in the uk) - people who have taken up a vocational profession to help people and children who are struggling to cope with life and its challenges. An example what can happen is that as these people are generally disposed to see the good side of situations and characters, they often err on the side of caution when delaing with issues such as child abuse (ie. They cannot understand why anyone would mistreat a child so accept offered explanations for broken bones a little too easily).
Could it be that the police, through day-to-day dealing with criminals and needing a mindset of suspicion are apt to react to a situation through the filter of worst-possible interpretation?
(hopefully that makes sense and does not appear anti police (or antisocial-worker)).
Could it be that the Police, through day-to-day dealing with criminals and needing a mindset of suspicion are apt to react to a situation through the filter of worst-possible interpretation?
(Hopefully that makes sense and does not appear anti police (or antisocial-worker)).
QFT... the police protect themselves as an institution rather than protecting society and the admittedly rather abstract notion of "justice," there's a serious problem. And it certainly happens.
Excellent choice, Sir! Bravo!... if I'm going to take time to buffer stuff with my infinitely small slice of bandwidth, it's gonna be porn.
It's less formulaic than most of your posts, at least.Excellent choice, Sir! Bravo!