i'm in the market for some new brakes and am hearing a lot of horror stories about Hydraulic systems. is this just hype or are they realy more trouble than they are worth? when compared to a avid bb7. any input would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
Hydraulic's suck?
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I've got hayes hfx-mags on my dj rig... I've never had a problem with 'em.
avid hydros this season kick ass, my old hayes always needed to be bled but always felt very nice
Hydro's have superior stoppoing power and modulation. There have been cases where you wreck and it tears the hydro line off, but it's rare . That's the only downside I could think of.
There's no need for hydro's for DJ or street IMO, I'm currently running just a rear Avid mech on my P1 and it works fine.
By that logic, disc are overkill all together. V-brakes work "fine". Properly set up hydro's will modulate tons better than mech. brakes.NotQuiteJdm said:
I dont know guys, I haven't put serious time on the hydraulic systems being discussed, but my avid mechs with the 203 rotors stop as hard or as soft as I want, they offer total control of lever throw, and I never have to screw around with bleeding or fluids. If user friendly servicability is important to you, go mech. IMO, ability to "modulate" braking comes as much from experience and skill as it does from the pad rubbing on the rotor.
Hucknificent said:
I agree, I just hate the way rim brake wheels look.
I have experience and skiill w/ both! I am perfectly happy w/ my hayes mech. and not having to replace anymore lines! Just making statements! Info to make a decision is the key here. I'm not trying to sell anything just provide correct info. What's the perfect set up for me or someone else isn't the perfect set up for everyone. Test bikes w/ both make a decision.skatetokil said:
If your going to use it for street/dj I would personally suggest the avid mech discs. Hydraulics I've used def. brake better, but I've also had a ton more problems with them. The avids, i've had no problems, and they brake very well.
Problems with hydro's in the last few months:
1. lost the rubber plug on the hayes lever reservoir on a climb up the first couple miles of Porcupine Rim, rode the rest of the day with only rear brakes.
2. Had to replace a line on my hope minis for the older style Chameleon with the drop style disc brake mount, lines cost about 5 times as much as cables + fluid.
3. THe bars turned to far on a wreck and pulled the line out of the Hope levers. New fluid and bleeding.
4. The casing on one of the fluid lines on the Chameleon is starting to crack, only a matter of time before it starts leaking and needs replace.
Hydro lines tend to be alot stiffer than cables if you plan on doing bar spins/x ups/crashing.
hope this helps.
Problems with hydro's in the last few months:
1. lost the rubber plug on the hayes lever reservoir on a climb up the first couple miles of Porcupine Rim, rode the rest of the day with only rear brakes.
2. Had to replace a line on my hope minis for the older style Chameleon with the drop style disc brake mount, lines cost about 5 times as much as cables + fluid.
3. THe bars turned to far on a wreck and pulled the line out of the Hope levers. New fluid and bleeding.
4. The casing on one of the fluid lines on the Chameleon is starting to crack, only a matter of time before it starts leaking and needs replace.
Hydro lines tend to be alot stiffer than cables if you plan on doing bar spins/x ups/crashing.
hope this helps.
I ran just a rear v brake until a couple of days ago(DJIII is only disc). I just put a hope mini on the rear. It so far seems to offer alot more stopping power. I can see how mechanicals would hold up better than hydros, especially for a jumping bike. Hopefully the Hope's will work. My only other option are my shimano mechnicals which suck.
Hayes HFX-Mags are really the best brakes I've ever used. I just got a pair for my dirt jumping bike after loving them on my stinky. I've had them on my stinky for years with no problems at all, never had to bleed them or anything. Great brakes I think. Mechanicals just dont stop good enough once you've tried hydro's.
I think that a bb7 in back is pretty popular for urban/DJ
I've got that set up.
I've got that set up.