I've read a lot Stinky (and Coiler) hating, while Dirt Bags are praised. Are they not pretty much the same frame(s)?
call kona and tell them they dont rideexcept that dirtbags are built by a small, rider owned company, who are not part of a multi-national corporation. Oh, and the quality of dirtbags is alot higher.
sexy bikeYeah, Kona didn't send me a xmas card either, but Transition sure did
Oh yeah, the new Dirtbag the cables route under the top tube.
There designs are pretty much the same (at least concerning the dirt bag). Have you ever owned a kona and know first hand why they are "so bad"? If anything, specialized is way more the "walmart bikes of the bike industry". Oh, and by the way, both companies frames are made in china (or taiwan).^^^someone obviously didnt get the mild humor in this thread. okay good way to explain why you get transition over kona. transition=quality, hand built, well made frames. kona=the walmart bikes of the bike industry, machine built, and well there design is nothing to shake a stick at.
norco liscences from specialized, not sure about the othersI could be way off the bat on this one, but I'm pretty sure that the this style of a 4 bar linkage was not patented, or as in the case of fsr (norco/specialized/azonic/khs/sinister.....), more than one company runs it. I think it may be one of those "free linkages" like a true single pivot. Again, I could be wrong though.
Everyone licenses it from specialized. They hold the patent, most bikes will have a sticker that says "Patented Specialized FSR blah blah blah" My Iron Horse SGS did at least...norco liscences from specialized, not sure about the others
Exactly, they are both made in taiwan, not hand made!Oh, and by the way, both companies frames are made in china (or taiwan).
Actually it does, it makes it feel smoother. I've owned a Stinky, andtransition uses bearings at every pivot, while kona uses bushings on the pivot between rear seat stay and rear chain stays. i dont think that matters very much though.
haha, you are right. all of Kona's and Transitions are single pivot bikes. with just huge shock linkages. NOT FSR, so no need to pay anyone's patent.I could be way off the bat on this one, but I'm pretty sure that the this style of a 4 bar linkage was not patented, or as in the case of fsr (norco/specialized/azonic/khs/sinister.....), more than one company runs it. I think it may be one of those "free linkages" like a true single pivot. Again, I could be wrong though.