CoVID-19
We are seeing flare-ups, I just looked up state info to send management feedback on my trip last week and cases are definitely on the rise. We've had outbreaks at seafood processors (they bring a bunch of people up in the summer to work in these plants) and extended care facilities (back to hospital protocol to kick people out to these once they are "stable").
Tucson isn't looking so good for ICU.
Here in Orange County the numbers are so small for whatever reason it has never been an issue. Even with more people out, dining, shopping, whatever now, numbers are still minimal.
It will be interesting with the fisheries, both on the water and in the processors.
The wide geographical pull that seasonal goldrush creates has always impressed me given the brutality of conditions.
Same conundrum exists for Cape Cod and the islands which are staffed by a disproportionate number of outside labor for the tourist season.
I don't know what the solution for extended care and to a lesser extent prisons is.
The only real solution is to isolate the staff but that'll be a hard sell despite fact that all cases are imported by staff members or new entries into the populations.
How's your buddy's photography business doing now?
Pretty sure if you remove NY from the equation daily new cases are on the rise. Most states are at a steady if not slightly increasing rate. The North East is an exception. AZ and Utah seem to be exploding with health care system nearing capacity in AZ.
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I haven't picked my nose in months at work. It's geting itchy. 
Seriously though - It's an odd scene here. The official numbers for my county are 2 active cases, 18 recovered, 1 death. Sounds like almost nothing, right? Very rural (so the low numbers would make sense), but also low access to testing.
Seriously though - It's an odd scene here. The official numbers for my county are 2 active cases, 18 recovered, 1 death. Sounds like almost nothing, right? Very rural (so the low numbers would make sense), but also low access to testing.
If you ramble through the numbers, however cast, the total infection rate across the globe has been relatively constant. As curves have flattened and as leaders have fumbled with approaches, the tendency seems to be to open up, with more contact which will kick the infection rate up again.
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I like to think of this more like a forest fire. Things look good then it jumps a line or finds a new bit of forest to burn through
I know theres more to it than people dying, but why arent we seeing statistics on severe covid cases linked to demographic?
Were almost 6 months in and I havent seen those numbers anywhere.
Even if theres people who are not aware of their underlying conditions it would shed a ton of light on the situation and its a simple case of registration.
If it turns out its old people with severe underlying conditions I dont see why millions of people who have nothing to fear have to suffer anyways.
It may sound harsh but I 100% think we should aproach this rationally instead of emotionally.
We cant make 90% of the earths population suffer ( and litterally millions of people are suffering) because of the 10% thats vulnerable.
If we can isolate the people that are in actual danger, and I know this is a grey area, we can focus on protecting that group while not spiralling ourselves into an economic crisis that will last for who knows how long...
Still shitty. Literally no weddings yet. Plus when things start going again, he’ll have to be shooting all the weddings that he had already taken deposits on. He has been doing a few engagement shoots and other small things. It’s starting to pick up a little, but nowhere near where he was at...
Are you looking for demographic data? It's out there. You know how the US keeps talking about african american infection rates, plus old people, plus underlying conditions.........that IS demographic data.
What you're describing is exactly what sweden (and quite frankly the economically obsessed in the US) were saying 4 months ago.
There are a few problems with this. Namely that goalposts aren't just moving, they're being redfined by the week still. What defines an 'at risk' population is still evolving. You may be harboring an 'underlying condition' and not even know it. So you go out into the world thinking you're low risk and end up needing 2 kidneys. Two months ago it was basically 'kids are essentially immune'. Now it's 'keep your kids safe from some weird kawasaki syndrome-like disease'. We don't know enough yet to make informed decisions. That's just a fact, and is mostly the reason we're kind of floundering through this. We know a lot about how to inform people of the flu. Not this. Not yet.
There are ways to do what you're describing. Not working indoors with lots of people and recirculated air is probably the single most important one. And avoiding crowds etc. The problem is, everyone has already be told this and they're too fucking stupid to let it sink in and actually do it because they can't be bothered. Everyone just focuses on "when can we do this?, when can we go here?" The answer of course being that we can do things sooner as soon as everyone starts doing minimization better. It's like trying to teach algebra to a bunch of children who just inhaled an entire candy isle.
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Not sure how we stack up against the rest of the world but were definitly up there in Europe, and we havent had any extreme situations in our ICUs.
I understand we should protect this group but it really hasnt been that bad over here and what I think we should ask ourselves is at what cost.
Right now Covid is worse than the flue, but not THAT much worse.
April saw a rise in wellfare for over 40.000 people against 6000 covid deaths (honestly believe were over our peak) and thats just the tip of the iceberg.
Im glad Argentina is doing well, though I find it very surprising considering the economic situation wasnt that good to start with. Having spent a good portion of my adult life in Latin America I still have a lot of friends there so I know other countries arent doing nearly as well.
Interesting point about the facemasks btw, since Italy has the same kisses on the cheek culture and we all know what happened there...
Those might be more related than we know.
In the end its gonna be really hard to compare Europe to Latin America so what Im saying might not hold any for second or third world countries.
Which is why its even more important we get more statistics on the development on severe covid cases.
Well, yeah if you're into the whole brevity thing.
Do you have any links for these stats? Cause I havent seen them anywhere.
And youre right about still learning as we go, but were still acting on information from feb and everybody who goes against the opinion of the allmighty WHO gets sensored.
Its really not a healthy (see what I did there
) situation.Actually, it's fascinating how "organic" fires can be, seeming to replicate living-being characteristics. We had a bad one that burned nearly all summer long, hiding out in bogs and places, flaring up, dying down, finding new areas, etc.
If its a relatively small portion of the population already mostly living in semi isolated conditions I really dont see why not?
Not saying we should cut them off from soceity but start with outdoors visits and ventilating the hell out of where they live in combination with masks for caregivers etc.
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The coal seam fires out here are equally as fascinating... some of them have been burning over 100 years.
Definitely interesting - always found this fascinating - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia,_Pennsylvania
Who are the caregivers? How are they paid? Do they have families and go shopping? How do they get to work at their pay grade?
I have wanted to visit that (ex-)town.
Coal-seam fire - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
And if you think that one is amazing,Coal-seam fire - Wikipedia
Natural nuclear fission reactor - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Yeah, I knew about the natural reactor...
Over half of people tested in Italy's Bergamo have COVID-19 antibodies
More than half the residents tested in Italy's northern province of Bergamo have COVID-19 antibodies, health authorities said on Monday, citing a sample survey.
www.reuters.com
57% COVID antibody test positivity in Bergamo. This is quite close to that expected for herd immunity, and is an argument against “immunological dark matter”, IMO.
Also highlights that there’s a long way to go in terms of morbidity and mortality for most regions to reach this prevalence.
We dont need to change that much for the workers if we start ventilating the hell out of places.
And if those workers start wearing masks it might make enough of a difference to avoid more drastic measures.
One of the main suspects so far in nursing home is bad air circulation and shitty filters.
Well maintained HEPA systems could make a world of a difference.
So far weve just been locking these people up in sealed off buildings isolating them from the rest of the world. They could have just implemented outdoors (maybe under a roof of sorts) visiting hours, that would have already made a drastic difference in residents and their families quality of life.
Come on man, you're starting to sound like an american. It's literally the single topic the entire world is investigating right now.
That said, much as I was hoping months ago for an idiot disease, if we can find a way to quarantine american obese diabetics, now would be a good time I think.
cuomo could be in charge.....he did such a swell job of turning nursing homes into death camps it was almost like the second coming of trumpf....Come on man, you're starting to sound like an american. It's literally the single topic the entire world is investigating right now.
That said, much as I was hoping months ago for an idiot disease, if we can find a way to quarantine american obese diabetics, now would be a good time I think.
Why so narrow?
Cuomo was not responisble for the exact same scenario playing out in at least 48 other states.
Because it's standard medical protocol.
This is the first time I see stats as detailed as this but admittedly I havent been looking for them lately.Come on man, you're starting to sound like an american. It's literally the single topic the entire world is investigating right now.
That said, much as I was hoping months ago for an idiot disease, if we can find a way to quarantine american obese diabetics, now would be a good time I think
Peace of mind is appearently really good for the immune system, but I gotta say theyre quite reassuring even for someone like me who was diagnosed with astma and copd at a fairly young age.
The problem is that nobody is hearing those numbers and our collective goverments are still acting like looking at someone whos infected will get you killed.
All you hear in the mainstream media is “NEW CASES!” and “ X AMOUNT OF PEOPLE DEAD!”.
The media is also to blame here because theyre mostly just parroting their goverments.
The news might be different in the US but I highly doubt most people here know more about Covid than what they hear on national TV.
Criticism is not allowed, MDs on youtube are getting their videos taken down because their opinions are “controversial” if they go against WHO policies.
The same WHO organisation that is controlled by pharmaceutical companies through lobbying.
Weve seen this countless times before in politics and weapons manufacturers. Regardless of the virus, I dont see why people expect this to be any different.
Musta had the Bill Gates 5g vaccination.....
The problem here (and I'm sure where you are) is that the people who are most publicly criticizing (like the hack videos) are fucking morons spreading bullshit that really can get someone killed. Someone like yourself from the sounds of your past history. I'm basically telling people to get the fuck away from me on a daily basis because I had pneumonia and would enjoy not having additional circulatory problems in life that may cause a stroke.
That plandemic crap? Total dangerous bullshit. Those two dipshit orderlies from the central valley in CA that got banned......total fucking morons who were immediately chastised by the hospital they work for. One of their stated credentials was "studied biochemistry". That may sound impressive to your average 16yr old bike mechanic but it's the same bachelor's degree I have, and I am categorically NOT qualified to issue formal sanctioned guidance on public health matters that need to rely on data.
People aren't realizing that they ARE seeing an adaptive approach. No one's tackling you for going outside and running/biking etc. vs. 3 months ago when everyone was screaming don't touch anything and stay inside. That's a result of better understanding real transmission vectors. Those small changes were because people are constantly having exactly the conversations you're saying are shut down. The bullshit is getting shut down, not simply because it's criticism, but because it's bullshit. The 'I'm just asking questions' gets old when they've already been answered a hundred times.
I do agree that it seems people just take what they casually hear on the tevee and in conversations and don't look any harder. That's kind of the problem.
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