I dunno if this has been posted already but: http://www.phatphoto.com/phatgallery/details.php?image_id=2927
brock*
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Be One Gearbox bike
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Same here...fist time seeing it! Thanks for the pic.
very nice pics on that site
well good to see another bike company embracing the gearbox/non derailer
drivetrain
well good to see another bike company embracing the gearbox/non derailer
drivetrain
WOW!!! that thing looks so nice and clean. Hopefully well see much more of this from other companies as well
Is there a Rholoff hidden in there or is this their own proprietary design? It is a very clean looking setup.
it will probably break really easily
Damn, that looks pimp! George, any chance you've got any inside information from your former team? This is the first I've seen of it, but it's nice to see more than one company working on this new gearbox theme.
If we see one on the market that actually works, I may be able to retire the singlespeed. Well, not necessarily retire, but perhaps it'll become the pub/derby bike instead of my do-it-all-but-for-God's-sake-be-quiet-while-you're-doing-it steed.
All that chainslapping makes my BRAAAAPPP-ing less audible.
If we see one on the market that actually works, I may be able to retire the singlespeed. Well, not necessarily retire, but perhaps it'll become the pub/derby bike instead of my do-it-all-but-for-God's-sake-be-quiet-while-you're-doing-it steed.
All that chainslapping makes my BRAAAAPPP-ing less audible.
I heard from Tom at Rohloff that they have some BIG, top secret products coming out at years end. Maybe this inline with what he was talking about. The sooner the better (as long as it works).
preppie said:
Actually, I would ask if Dave Weagle has anything to do with the BeOne Gear box as he designed the G-Boxx that was seen at the 2004 Interbike Trade Show on the Evil Imperial 2013i and the Nicolai frame.
Quick link for ya'll - http://www.evilbikes.com/2013i_gboxx/2013i.htm
Michael
e.13 / Evil
i've heard rumors of a lighter, fewer-geared (ie, more dh / freeride oriented) rohloff. it'd be great to see such a product come to fruition.springfish said:
That bike looks TITS 
and i too hate derailleurs :angry:
and i too hate derailleurs :angry:
Ooooh, I saw that one coming...TWISTED said:
nice concept, but... if you go to a gearbox design, is there any way to get around having a simple single-pivot (like the honda) or a linkage-driven sp bike like the b1? I can't get around thinking that you wouldn't be able to run any type of linkage with an extending chainline w/o some type of derailleur-like tension adjuster, and that just defeats the purpose... 
Will be interesting to see if they can overcome: weight, price, complex repairs and single pivot suspension problems.
dante
Will be interesting to see if they can overcome: weight, price, complex repairs and single pivot suspension problems.dante
Who was riding that bike? Was it Bas De Bever? At Todtnau me and Partsy were talking to the young bloke who rides for the Be-one team.....His name's Nico something or rather, nice kid, fast as hell too. Didn't see any bikes like that there though.
You can run more complex rear suspension designs without a tensioner, it just requires a little thought on the manufacturers part. Take the Honda as an example, they have chain growth in their design yet don't run a deraileur type tensioner.dante said:nice concept, but... if you go to a gearbox design, is there any way to get around having a simple single-pivot (like the honda) or a linkage-driven sp bike like the b1? I can't get around thinking that you wouldn't be able to run any type of linkage with an extending chainline w/o some type of derailleur-like tension adjuster, and that just defeats the purpose...
dante
I think the reason you tend to see bikes like this as single pivots is because most designs that vary axle path do it to deal with chain torque issues which are a lot easier to control when you have a fixed size of chainrings. When is the last time you saw a VPP or Horst link MX bike?
here's an image of the standard be-one rig.
http://www.beone-bikes.com/pages/dynamic/getResDBimage.asp?w=394&h=235&c=1&fc=1&field=BikeLargeImageBlob&tname=Bike&id=26
doesn't look extremely different design wise, seem to be using a similar linkage idea for the gearbox version.
I always wanted a be-one bike, I want one even more now!!!
brock*
http://www.beone-bikes.com/pages/dynamic/getResDBimage.asp?w=394&h=235&c=1&fc=1&field=BikeLargeImageBlob&tname=Bike&id=26
doesn't look extremely different design wise, seem to be using a similar linkage idea for the gearbox version.
I always wanted a be-one bike, I want one even more now!!!
brock*
Well yeah regular derailleurs are more serviceable but isn't the whole point of going internally geared because they require a lot less service?
Well the whole reason of having most of those linkages is for pedalling reasons, but with this you could make the bike pedal better than was easily possible before (without using a jackshaft or pulley, anyway). For example, you could tune such a bike (because the chainline is constant, and able to be placed pretty much wherever you like in relation to the axle/pivot axis) to pedal as well as any of the bikes currently on the market (eg DW-link, VPP)... IMO of course.dante said:nice concept, but... if you go to a gearbox design, is there any way to get around having a simple single-pivot (like the honda) or a linkage-driven sp bike like the b1? I can't get around thinking that you wouldn't be able to run any type of linkage with an extending chainline w/o some type of derailleur-like tension adjuster, and that just defeats the purpose...
dante
You're dead right. I'm never going to buy a car in case that happens.Hrelp said:
[hint] gearboxes are pretty reliable compared to derailleurs [/hint]
Thats great I wouldn't want to see someone as stupid as yourself on the road anyways. There are 50 tranmission specific shops for cars in my town and 0 qualified shops that could deal with a beone gearbox or rohloff. Imagine what life would be like if every transmission that broke had to be shipped off to get fixed.
thaflyinfatman said:
Thank You. I was thinking the same thing but didn't feel like typing the whole thing out. Basically high pivot =nice rearward and up axle path but problems with chain growth. Low pivot = poor axle path but no problem with chain growth. Links on the chainstay of a low pivot bike (fsr) can fix axle path problems.thaflyinfatman said:
This is the future! Ever wonder why singlespeeds are so popular? Often it's not because the owner doesn't like gears but because he doesn't like dealing with the problems associated with rear deraileurs. I'm gonna call Honda and tell them to send me a bike or Mountain Cycle will sue em for copying us :mumble: (just kidding).
a better shot of the set up
That just looks so right and this gearbox thing seems to be comming along quicker that I had expected. I even strong now have to sing the tune: you don't need a new bike, you don't need a new bike ....
wait until this weekend, I may have a few surprises for you guys...
Spill the beans Danny;
What's up?
Brraaaaaaaaaaaaaapppp!
What's up?
Brraaaaaaaaaaaaaapppp!
you tease, you know it will just start the speculation anyway without you....it begins....Nicolai-USA said:wait until this weekend, I may have a few surprises for you guys...
hehehe... its a major announcement... thats all I can say... I think it will cause a profound change in the way 5/6 inch travel enduro bikes will be looked upon... w00ps! did I say too much already?
Nice, just be sure to send the press release my way brotha. I'm dying to hear the full scoop! Sounds like Karl and his gang have been busy since Interbike?
So how often does your car's gearbox blow up? Work it out, then relate it into a per-kilometre/mile function, then tell me a derailleur has ever lasted you anywhere near that long. Before you go calling other people stupid, maybe you should have a look at how intelligent your own comments are... dumbass.Hrelp said: