Disagree. The 180 is quite a bit heavier than the 160. If you don't need/ want that extra 20mm lowering a 180 Float is just going to net you an unnecessarily heavy fork. And I don't particularly want a Vanilla because I'd like it to be easier to lower. (yes, you can lower a Vanilla. I've got one. It's just a bit of a PITA and less reversible than with a Float).no because the van still comes rc2, the 180mm float can be lowered to 160 if you want, and the talas has external travel adjust down to 160 if you want. you only loose if you buy a complete bike with a 160, aftermarket your still ok
The lowers on the 180 are different. The axle is off set to keep the ac height normal. If you lower it won't the ac height be lower then the regular 160mm?Disagree. The 180 is quite a bit heavier than the 160. If you don't need/ want that extra 20mm lowering a 180 Float is just going to net you an unnecessarily heavy fork. And I don't particularly want a Vanilla because I'd like it to be easier to lower. (yes, you can lower a Vanilla. I've got one. It's just a bit of a PITA and less reversible than with a Float).
160mm=545 A2C, 180mm=565 A2C. I'm guessing the lowers are so much longer because Fox moved the lower bushings down to make the 36 chassis stiffer to deal with the extra travel.The lowers on the 180 are different. The axle is off set to keep the ac height normal. If you lower it won't the ac height be lower then the regular 160mm?
I sure hope the new 160mm 36s can handle the abuse the old ones could, cause I plan on putting my 2011 through even more than I put my 09.Yeah. That was a stupid move. I guess they figured that the 180 will be used the way the 160 was when it came out and the 160 is now used on bikes that see more XC use.
I'm pretty sure my fork is pre-fit. The HSC adjustment does nothing unless fully on.2009 was the first year for FIT. The 36 talas rc2, Float 36 rc2 and 40 all have the fit cartridge
I still don't have an answer to my question, and would love to hear feedback. I haven't switched my fork yet, after a bit more tweaking and a bit more servicing I found a pretty useable sweet spot. Though when I was in Sedona* on a bike trip in November I came sooooo close to picking up a X-Fusion Vengeance. I think in terms of mid-stroke support and lack of stiction... that's the way to go.^ yeah.
Nah, just wanting to read good things about it while I can't use it...Thinking of swapping already?
In the same boat here. I have a shiny new '13 36 Float RC2 just waiting to get dirty, but it just won't stop frickn snowing here in MA. I originally ordered the TALAS but a Float showed up and I didn't feel like waiting to exchange. As long as it was a 36 with the RC2 FIT damper. I've been happy with the new FIT damper I dropped in my 40 so hopefully the new 36 will have a similar feel...Nah, just wanting to read good things about it while I can't use it...