I hear its better than the Sunday 
2009/10 Giant Prototype
- Thread starter Nagaredama
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Well folks, you heard it here first. I feel a shift in the earths axis, and a new bike for Mr. Hill.
Saturday totally owns Sunday not doubt.
Giant "somebody's got a case of the Mondays"
will it come with 32 pieces of flair?
The Chotchkie's edition will come with a minimum of 37 pieces of flair.
I have a 2008 glory.
It rips! It feels like a tank when rolling through boulder sections or steep drops and chutes.
They low center of weight keeps the bike very flickable.
The new version looks to shed some weight(like the Reigns) but to say they are ripping off a sunday is a far stretch.
Maestro is a DW type system but the two versions ride night and day different.
It rips! It feels like a tank when rolling through boulder sections or steep drops and chutes.
They low center of weight keeps the bike very flickable.
The new version looks to shed some weight(like the Reigns) but to say they are ripping off a sunday is a far stretch.
Maestro is a DW type system but the two versions ride night and day different.
anyone take pics of the bike at the US Open?
Completely agree, i had both, on the 08 glory now, and it rides completely different, but just as good. Just depends if u like it the M way or the DW way..
But i liked the look of the glory out now, they could have saved some weight on that, and not gone down the look of IH so much.. The glory now does look quite original...:biggrin:
UPDATE: giant riders amiel and jared were both on the 08's this past weekend at the US Open. still on the same blue/white color scheme. i was talkin to amiel and he said that the new frame is most likely gonna come out in 2010. so seems like the black/blue frames that were floating around are the 09's.
anyone lookin to buy a large 08 glory complete? im gonna sell mine and get a medium
anyone lookin to buy a large 08 glory complete? im gonna sell mine and get a medium 750 for the frame. 
The mount looks the same as a DW, with the lower shock mount being at the front pivot of the lower link.
Looks sexy! Hydrofrom tubes?
Looks sexy! Hydrofrom tubes?
That looks money. Makes me kinda regret putting an order in for the 2008.
hmmmm spec'd with a BOS on the back end... and I remember reading the other day that BOS is offering a model of their rear damper specifically tuned for DW-link bikes.... 
What is it with the freakin seats that they put on their prototypes? I remember seeing some other Giant prototype a while ago, and it had exactly the same strange looking seat.
look! a straight top tube! it CAN be done!
That is Oscar Saiz's bike and he has used those seats for years and he rides for Giant and BOS.
its like a BMX seat, light easy to get around, goes straight up your arse if you sit on it......
Ok, for real though, serious question...hmmmm spec'd with a BOS on the back end... and I remember reading the other day that BOS is offering a model of their rear damper specifically tuned for DW-link bikes....
I know the DW-Link and VPP bikes, FSR etc... all have different patenents. Doesn't suspension's designs wheel path's vary? Like, isn't a shock tuned to a bikes wheel path? I'm a little confused. Thanks.
Its the compression ratio of the shock (i2i & stroke) as the suspension cycles through its travel that determines how a shock needs to be tuned. Wheel path has doesn't directly affect compression ratio.
Edit: what I mean is that 2 bikes can have similar compression ratios and differing wheel paths.
What I was trying to imply was that we're seeing a Giant Prototype with DW looking linkage with BOS suspension not long after BOS announced a DW-tuned rear shock. Combine this with the fact that there's going to be a new company for 2009 (or was it 2010?) being the big name company licensing the DW-link instead of Ironhorse. If you can't add 1 + 1 at this point well...
shouldn't this thread merge with "after DW, or no DW, or wheres DW" thread
so....being a glory so much cheaper than a sunday right now....let's e-spectulate about this new glorious monday-frame's price tag.
eleventy billion dollars.
considering the new norco team Dh will be 7100 and the sunday WC was 6999 this year, id say for the complete around 6000-6300 depending on specs
and the new 88 frame was like something crazy like 4 k, and the m6 is like that with ccdb and ti spring, so maybe this can break the 3000 mark frame only
who knows
bikes is gettin mucho expensive
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That thing looks so DW linkish haha, it looks like the IC path is slightly different however, lower and farther back more akin to Maestro, and won't have the same squat curve - no DW like i guess?
Has it been "revealed" who will be the recipient of the DW link for DH next year yet?
Has it been "revealed" who will be the recipient of the DW link for DH next year yet?
yeah, you guys are really onto something....first off......
they had to change their first glory because it infringed upon DW link patents back in the day....i know a gay dude that rides one of the original prototypes......
second....if they were working with dave wouldn't they be running a different brand of guide????? come on guys?....i'm not ruling it out but i doubt this is going to be the new dw.link licsencee
maestro was always a dw link knock off....i doubt they are going to give dave credit(and money) and rebrand their entire FS line.....
they had to change their first glory because it infringed upon DW link patents back in the day....i know a gay dude that rides one of the original prototypes......
second....if they were working with dave wouldn't they be running a different brand of guide????? come on guys?....i'm not ruling it out but i doubt this is going to be the new dw.link licsencee
maestro was always a dw link knock off....i doubt they are going to give dave credit(and money) and rebrand their entire FS line.....
taken from the other duplicate thread
Guess we'll see what happens.
looks like giant is not the one the dw link will be going to. bummer for dw. If it was dw I would be buying one instead of a jedi next year, as its not, even if its an exact duplicate of dw, I wont be buying one, dw looks like he's getting railed.
Guess we'll see what happens.
I read somewhere that the owner of Giant gives millions$ to kids and puppies.
..he raises them for there pelts.
As far as the MRP guide on that bike, that bike belongs to a rider, the rider is probably sponsored by MRP and forbidden from using anything else. I'm sure a company test bike would have an e.13 guide on it if in fact there is some connection between DW and Giant.
Regarding the second point, couldn't Giant pay Dave the licensing fees (or buy the design outright) and simply continue to call it Maestro? At that point, couldn't they call it whatever they wanted to?...
I'm not saying I believe the hype necessarily but I don't think your points disprove the hype reliably.
Either way, the new Glory proto looks really nice and owning a Maestro bike and knowing how well the design works, I assume this new bike will ride really well too.