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Prototype Rocky Mountain ?

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  1. peecee New Member

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    You get in the lift line at Whistler again unlabeled, unknown to see bikes. Sometimes, there are already rumors of what brand something is tested - so here currently circulating rumors of a new downhill bike from Rocky Mountain. Whether it really originates from Rocky or not, we do not know.

    What is seen on the phone photos:

    - Large storage
    - The damper is hinged on a rocker and is not floated, but supported on the main frame.
    - Four-bar linkage with Horst Link
    - Two mounting holes for the rear axle
    - 26 inch

    large_RockyMountain_Prototyp_Downhill-26.jpg large_RockyMountain_Prototyp_Downhill-27-2.jpg large_RockyMountain_Prototyp_Downhill-27.jpg

    www.mtb-news.de
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  2. livanh New Member

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    Technically thats not a Horstlink, but we.
    Nice to see a new DH bike from Rocky, their other new bikes have all been awesome.
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    Doesn't it look a bit like a.... ?
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    What about brake mount!?

    How come?
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    ^ Was going to say how's it not a horst link? Pivot in front of, and below the rear axel looks like a horst link to me....

    Neat looking ride. Wonder what company is running this.
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  6. livanh New Member

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    Well its kinda hard to tell, but since all rockys circumvent the horst link patent with a pivot above the rear axle, i more or less assumed this would be the case too. i still think its the case here, hard to tell with those pics though
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    May be, but since the patent is expiring, they can probably get away with it now.
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    AhhHAAAA!!!!Brilliant!!! That is not a Rocky Mountain, it's a Specialized! OK; Decoy is the concentric pivot bike with yellow shock and Specialized rider in a team jersey. The real deal is a Trek copy for Gwin because he just can't win on that damn Demo. The rider is incognito as not to draw attention...genius.
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  9. Sandwich just shake your rump

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    my money would be on norco as that's kind of a ringer for the aurum, but the aurum doesn't really need that much revision from the look of it.

    but that's how you do an incognito prototype...no paint, no matchy jerseys, parts that work instead of parts that your company is partnered with...
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    I'm with the OP, I'd guess Rocky Mountain from the seat tube gusset.



    Beyond the fun of guessing, I don't really have much interest, not seeing much new these days. Unless Yeti comes out with a DH bike with the Switch...
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    I'm guessing that the person riding the proto would also be a dead giveaway as to what company it is. Vanderham? Simmons?
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    two axle mounts... if it's 10mm apart could be 26 / 650B convertible...

    nice proto but sorry i must say it look like ... T...
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    if only he had his name on the jersey, then we'd know.
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    ftfy.
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    You think they Sharpied it out?
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    Seems pretty clear to me. The pivot is on the chainstay.

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    he's not referring to that, he's referring to the location of the pivot on the horizontal plane in relation to the rear axle, which was part of the horst patent.
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    Good point. I fell into the trap of categorizing all 4-bar bikes with chainstay pivots as Horst Link.
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    it is true that there are a few rocky protos around, although I haven't seen them yet....for what it's worth
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    looking at this pic again, the location of the axle seems to be nearly on a plane with the pivot, but the other, longer option seems to be higher ? maybe not only for different wheel size testing, but also a test from "whatever rocky calls their 4bar" to a more normal horst link style position.
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but for this kind of multi-link configuration, axle on seatstays = horst link and axle on chainstays = single pivot. Here, the axle is on the seatstays, so it's a horst link. Too simple?

    With the axle on the seat stays and connected by links, the wheel path of a horst bike can be modified as compared to the rotation of the chainstay around the main pivot. That is true of this bike. That would not be true if the axle was on the chainstays - it would be a single pivot with linkage-driven shock.
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    its impossible to tell from the angle in the picture.
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    i think you have seat stays and chainstays confused.
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    That is too simple. If you dumb everything down to that, suddenly DW-link, lawwill, and all the rest fall under the horst patent. Not sure what exactly the qualifiers are for Horst.
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    "Horst Link" suspension is a type of four-bar linkage suspension. It is characterized by having both connecting links pivot on the seat tube, with the lower pivot located above the center of the bottom bracket, and the rear axle being located higher than the pivot connecting floating link and lower connecting link

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_suspension#Horst_link
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    When the pivot on the chainstays is below the rear axle it falls into the horst patent. Rocky skirts the patent issues by having the pivot inline and or slightly above the rear axle.

    100% positive it's the new Rocky, and I am about 98% sure it's Jamie Biluk riding the proto.
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    Did you just identify a guy via the internet through pictures of his legs and butt? Not that there's anything wrong with that of course ;)
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    No. My approach may be too simple but I'm clear on which is which.
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    wow my bad. i'm illiterate today apparently. where you said axle i thought you said pivot :doh:


    edit: to clarify in conjunction with my above posts, it's not just having the pivot on the chainstay, but the location of that pivot in relation to the rear axle.
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    EDIT - I made the same mistake jon did.
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    Maybe its ICT...
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    It's the new Rocky Mtn Flatline and there are a number of guys with them, Biluk, Bryson, Adrianno along with a number of Rocky employees, they are now on the 2nd Generation, been around for a while. Also expect to see some new Slayer proto's around.
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    ha, just saw Bryson's pic and was about to post something similar....

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    Trekky Mountain Flatsession? :p
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    bryson martin?

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    Well it's either the new Rocky, or that guy (who works for Rocky) is gonna be looking for a new job!
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    I like that, nice simple looking bike. The trend for swoopy **** for the hell of it that's become normal in recent years grates on me.
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    Aurum?
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    hahha, Ken's getting his 15 minutes of fame.
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