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Iron Horse Sunday Sizing?

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  1. Ginger Ninja New Member

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    I've got my name down for a Sunday Elite when they arrive but I'm a bit unsure about what size frame to get. I sent an email to IH about it and they suggested a 19" for my 6'1" height. Looking at the geometry though, the effective TT measurement looks way too long. It's much longer than other bikes I've ridden but the 17" looks about right.

    I ordered a 19" anyway but I'd appreciate any input as no one around here owns a Sunday I could test ride.
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    I think it comes down to personal preference of liking a smaller bike or a bigger bike. Like you I am 6'1" and was deciding between the two sizes. I ended up getting the 19 and have been happy with it. They are fairly long bikes in terms of wheelbase but top-tube is on par with most other DH bikes I've ridden. Keep in mind that their TT measurement is effective TT and not the actual TT length. I ended up running a 75mm stem on mine to help with weighting the front in corners.
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    At 6'1 a 19" should be right in your wheelhouse!

    I am 6'2" and have never had a better fitting bike.

    -ska todd
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    I am 6'1" and I ride the 17". I have over the years found out short TT fits me better as I have long legs but short upper body/arms. DHJay who I ride with is also 6'1" but is build like Todd and he feels and looks cramped on my 17" and will buy the 19" next year. Here is a picture of me from this weekend with the E13 BoXXer stem set at 45mm:

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    I was very nervous about sizing too. You have to keep in mind that the Sunday has a pretty unique geometry.

    What I did was start comparing the front-center measurement (front wheel to bb), with other major frames out there.
    Basically take the wheelbase, subtract the chainstay, there's your FC#.
    Take into account the slacker 65 degree head hangle and you have a pretty good idea of how big the actual "cockpit" is (i.e. handlebar to bb when standing).

    I'm 6'-0" and got a 19". I usually ride mediums, but I'm more at home on that bike than nearly every other bike I've ever had.
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    I am 5'11" with long arms. I ride my 17" with the e13 Boxxer stem at 55, and the 19" frae I had I rode that with the stem at 45mm. I was comfortable on both sizes but I prefer the smaller bike.

    Keep in mind the Sunday has a little shorter CS than most other DH bikes in its class (17.25"). This gives it a little more lively feel and lets you ride up in the cockpit a bit more.

    Dave
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    Thanks for all the help. Sounds like the 19" frame will be a good fit.
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    i'm 5'11" and still very unsure which size to get
    both sizes 17" and 19" both feel fine
    at the moment both bikes have boxxer mounted sic stems
    but looking at getting a e13 boxxer mounted stem
    that you can vary the stem from 45 to 55

    sounds like dw feels much the same

    which one should i get ?
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    Your right on the bubble.

    Do you prefer smaller or bigger bikes?

    I'm 6'0" and love the 19", but as dw say's above, he's 5'11" and has ridden both comfortably.
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    what happens to ppl who are like 5'6? ih dont like short ppl?:p
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  11. jungle New Member

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    dhkid

    Sunday's come in a 16" for 2006
    so hopefully that should suit shorter people

    cheers
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    anybody have any input on a 5'7", 14 year old kid (ganna be 15 when i get my sunday) who is going to buy in about 5-6 months?
    I've been riding a small bike for awhile now so I'm pretty used to small bikes.

    thanks
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    16 inch? IH made em this year, I assume it would be small enough.
    Although if you can get away with a 17 I'd grab that as 15 year olds grow like mad.
    But most importantly, test em both out.

    Also, at 6 foot I love my 19" Sunday.
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    thanks, I'm leaning toward 17" also so I can fit on it for longer then I probly could on a 16"
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    im 5'8 and riding a 17" but i have the possibility to change to a 16, what do you think
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    6'2" riding a 17" feels perfect for me
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    yeah, im 6'3 and i took a run on ricky's 17" sunday. i am in <3 allthough the wheelbase felt a tiny bit short... nothing a different suspension setup couldent change. we'll see, 19's just feel funky to me..allthough i have never ridden one set up for me...
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    5'9" on a 17" and it feels great.
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    i sat on the 17" and it felt right, i prefare a smaller feeling bike but this doesnt really feel like it anyway, plus the shorter wheelbase suits me better due to tighter courses around here,
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    yeah its that way around here too, i'm just a little worried about courses like mt snow where my Medium dhr really feels too short. (oh, and my dad was wrong, im only 6'2 :love: )
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    i think the geo and low bb make up for stability at speed, i didnt feel sketchy at all on a fast open section at my last race
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    i didnt on my last mt snow race, but at nationals, i went faster than I ever had on a bike. and my 13.6 bb and 65* head angle didnt make up for the 45" wheelbase since im so tall. I dunno, the sunday feels better though, like short is good.

    I took a run on a 17" that was setup too stiff for me, and it was amazing. Even though i was getting like 1-2" of sag, I still hit the the top section of the track twice as fast and i did a complete run, not even realizing that i hadn't stopped once, I was just having that much fun. I'f I can get on a bike with the correct setup, 60mm stem, and 28"bars with little sweep I think that would be the fastest bike I could possibly be on. The bike is just so fast, the faster you go, the better it rides. I love it.
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  23. hungryleprican New Member

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    I keep hearing that from everyone I talk to about the sunday

    "the faster you go, the better it rides. I love it" - Red Bull
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    I'm only 5'7" and ride a 17". I have my seat pretty far forward and run a supershort stem to shorten up the cockpit. I love it. But I do prefer a longer bike, maybe it's my moto roots idk.
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    6'3" riding a 17" feels good, the 19" felt like a limosine
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    Im 5'9" and ride a 17" and its amazing
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    couldnt agree more
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    I'm 5'7 and i cant get enough of my 17" sunday. I love having the extra room in the tt over the 16" to get over the stem and rail those corners.
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    I'm 5'9" and I'm riding a 16" small. maybe its that washington has a lot tighter trails, but I've never ridden a bike that fits this good. Rides absolutely perfect. Highly recommended
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    I'm 5'7" and i'll probly be 5'9" in about 7-8 months so I'm thinking 17" also because I don't want to worry about growing out of a 16"
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    word little man. ;)
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    for my 5'8 you would rather ride a small or med?
    the courses on my country are a little bit slow and technical.
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    go small, i'm 5"8 and it's the perfect size for me!
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  35. chimpa_CHILE New Member

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    and your knees doesn't hit with the fork?
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  36. hungryleprican New Member

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    I tried lars's 16" sunday at fluidride and it felt great

    im 5' 7" btw
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    no problem with your knees?
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  38. hungryleprican New Member

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    well they could hit them but so could the medium. I would just worry about the crowns hitting my knee and they didnt on the 16"
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  39. chimpa_CHILE New Member

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    do you know lars' height?

    thanks!
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    i'm 6'0-6'1 and i rode a large at diablo and it was fine
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