Guerrilla Gravity, badass frame manufacturer in Colorado
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Normally, that would depend on whether you're measuring sag with 26" or 27.b wheels, due to the Coriolis effect of the Earth's rotation. But, I know you only ride 26", because....you know.
So, saber handle goes on the right side when measuring sag with 26" wheels.
I thought the side did not matter as long as the handle stays outside.
I don't really want to take it back off, but here's a quick rundown: there's not really enough room in the rear boss to drill a countersunk or counterbored hole to put a new bolt in there, but I drilled one part way through from the back face, so that I could put a set screw in the frame, and use that in the hole to at least define the clocking. As a result the guide is really only held on by one bolt, but it can't rotate, and seems to be held on well enough. I also had to file down the rear boss ~1mm to get the chainline right. The front one I just filled in with some washers.pics of your handiwork please
Got some more seat time over the weekend, got sag dialed in, bike feels great. I rode some pretty mellow/tight/fun trails this weekend and I was suprised at how good the MT handled it all, i thought it was going to feel big and unmanageable, worked alot better than I expected. MT's Rear end stiffness made me realize how much flex was in my old bike. The tracking of the rear end on the MT just seemed much more precise and consistent, I could really feel it in the tight turns. Riding some more aggressive trails this weekend, can't wait to get the bike out there to see how she does.
What are the full geometry numbers for the MT and frame weight?
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If the GG crew can't get you sorted in time, you can probably overnight it from these guys or perhaps another online dealer:
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=42011
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=42011
Trying that too. Just want to have a couple options in case something goes wrong.
Frame is 7lbs. What other geo numbers do you want? And, how tall are you?
Reach, stack, st length, cs length? I didnt see those but i could just be retarded. Were numbers taken with external headset cup?
Chain stay length = 16.9"
Reach = around (I'm still not sure how the frame does this, but I'm assured it involves some Ellsworthian kinematics)
Stack = smoking like Don Draper
Seat tube = its variable due to the reach around feature
But yeah, it would be cool to see those numbers (the chain stay length is correct). FWIW, I'm 5'11" and ride a medium with a 35 mm stem, fits like a dream.
Reach = around (I'm still not sure how the frame does this, but I'm assured it involves some Ellsworthian kinematics)
Stack = smoking like Don Draper
Seat tube = its variable due to the reach around feature
But yeah, it would be cool to see those numbers (the chain stay length is correct). FWIW, I'm 5'11" and ride a medium with a 35 mm stem, fits like a dream.
How wide is your handlebar?
Im 5'10" on a medium with a 40mm stem and 760mm bars..fits perfect and yes its made for an external headset cup
I believe the 26" is 16.9" cs 27.5 is 17.2"
Small:
Reach: 16.8"
Stack: 24.2"
ST length: 16.5"
Medium:
Reach: 17.8"
Stack: 24.2"
ST length: 18"
Large:
Reach: 18.8"
Stack: 25.1"
ST Length: 19.5"
CS, 26": 16.8"; CS, 27.5: 17.3"
Numbers are with external lower headset. The headtube is 49mm upper and lower, so with a tapered steerer tube fork, it uses an EC49 lower, ZS49 upper.
Sorry, what about x-small? Thanks!
Of course, the one I forgot to include
The XS is 26" only, btw.Reach: 15.7"
Stack: 23.5"
CS: 16.8"
ST: 15.5"
Any plans for 27.5 on xsmall? What is the warranty on these frames?
Running an uncut Bromag BZA fiber bar, which is 780. I used to run RF SixC bar cut down to 760 and it was fine too, but of course after sitting on a friend's bike with uncut 780s, I had cutters regret - plus I usually had my pinkys hanging off the end of the outer bar clamps with 760, and I've finally started to put my hands inside the bar clamps with 780. For me, the main advantage of running 780 is there's not much cockpit acclimation when hopping on the DH sled. The obvious downside is you *really* have to pay attention in narrow sections of trails.
As for the geo measurements, I'm assuming thats in Trail mode.
Yes, those numbers are in Trail Mode. No current plans for 27.5" in Extra Small, we decided to go with the lower stack height, shorter rear end and generally more flickable setup for that size.
Warranty is one year, with crash replacement after that.
Warranty is one year, with crash replacement after that.
Damn, that's a shame.
Thanks! I have a 35mm dia Atlas stem and an uncut 800 Atlas bar for my trail bike on my workbench and I plan to do at least a few rides before I decide to cut it.
I am considering a MT. What kinda built weights are folks getting? I plan on running a db inline, RF next sl cranks, enve wheels.
I am hoping to stay sub 30lbs.
I am hoping to stay sub 30lbs.
mines 30.9lbs
DB Air CS
pike
renthal bars/stem
carbon rims @ 400gs a piece
dt 240s
next sl cranks
xtr trail pedals
reverb
mrp amg
x9 drivetrain
xo trails
maxxis exo rubber
you should be right around 30lbs with the inline and the extra 2lbs over some big name carbon bike is well worth it imo
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30.5
Ccdba CS
Reverb
Chromag BZA steering rod
35 mm Atlas rod holder
XTR clutch derailleur
Set of Pikes RTC3
XCX top guide
Race Face Aeffect comfort seat
Stan's Flows laced to I9s (with I9 spokes)
Maxxis exo dhf and spesh purgatory
Race Face Atlas cranks
Time carbon ATACs
XT stoppers (7" and 6" rotors)
XT sprocket nest
14" black mamba dildo taped under the top tube (custom shim stack and avy midvalve)
Ccdba CS
Reverb
Chromag BZA steering rod
35 mm Atlas rod holder
XTR clutch derailleur
Set of Pikes RTC3
XCX top guide
Race Face Aeffect comfort seat
Stan's Flows laced to I9s (with I9 spokes)
Maxxis exo dhf and spesh purgatory
Race Face Atlas cranks
Time carbon ATACs
XT stoppers (7" and 6" rotors)
XT sprocket nest
14" black mamba dildo taped under the top tube (custom shim stack and avy midvalve)
Sub 30 lbs is definitely possible, especially with Next SL cranks, ENVE wheels, etc.
I weighed mine when I first built it up, which was 29.9 lbs with pedals:
DB Inline
MRP Stage
e13 TRSr cranks
1750g wheels
RF Atlas stem
SIXC bar (800mm, no cutter's regret)
KS Lev
XT brakes and drivetrain + BFC
~700g tires tubeless
MRP XCg taco bash
And <pedals we do not speak of on the internet> that are about 1lb
Those tires were a bit light, and I swapped the XCg for an AMg. But, Next SL cranks, ENVE wheels, and a Sram 1x11 (assuming that's what you'd use with that budget) will all cut weight and more than make up for running beefier tires.
I weighed mine when I first built it up, which was 29.9 lbs with pedals:
DB Inline
MRP Stage
e13 TRSr cranks
1750g wheels
RF Atlas stem
SIXC bar (800mm, no cutter's regret)
KS Lev
XT brakes and drivetrain + BFC
~700g tires tubeless
MRP XCg taco bash
And <pedals we do not speak of on the internet> that are about 1lb
Those tires were a bit light, and I swapped the XCg for an AMg. But, Next SL cranks, ENVE wheels, and a Sram 1x11 (assuming that's what you'd use with that budget) will all cut weight and more than make up for running beefier tires.
