[dwaugh]

I'm gonna replace my 2003 DJ3 with a used-but-not-used-too-hard 2003 Jr. T. I'm only looking to get more travel at a cheapish price, I dont need any fancy stuff. I've heard great things about the fork and sorta bad things about the fork. I think I would like it. I would use it for stuff around my house (not that much really) and whistler. I've got a Stinky, 18 inch. Also, I weigh about 150 pounds and dont ride extremely hard. Input?

 

[Rik]

HSCV > SSV
20mm > QR

But, if you can get it really cheap, why not? I'd personally save for something better, but it all depends on your budget and requirements.

 

[dwaugh]

HSCV > SSV
20mm > QR

But, if you can get it really cheap, why not? I'd personally save for something better, but it all depends on your budget and requirements.

Well, 300 with the hub included is the best deal I've seen so far on them. I would get something better, but I dont make a lot of money, I'm only 15 and pay for everything myself. Maintaining two good bikes is hard enough on me. I wouldnt ride the fokr too hard, but at whistler I would. I went through my DJ3's travel pretty fast and bottomed a few times, plus just the general roughness of whislter wasnt the best either. I think that 2 more inches of travel would really smooth the ride out a lot. How much do they weigh?

 

[Guntruck]

Yah dont bother.... I ended up turning my Jr into a Super and its a night and day difference.

 

[binary visions]

Dwaugh: Finding a used Super T instead of a Jr. T would be worth it.

Jr T's are okay, but even a 2001 Super T with 6" will feel like a lot more travel than the 7" Jr. T or your DJs. You should really try to get a cartridge damper fork - you won't even believe the difference.

It would be worth it to hold out longer to locate a good Super T (or pony up the money for one of the 2003 Super Ts I've seen in the B&S forum recently - THAT's a good fork. 32mm stanctions and cartridge dampers).

2 more inches of SSV travel won't smooth the ride out as much as you think.

Just my 2 cents. Budget constraints suck.

 

[FlipSide]

Dwaugh: Finding a used Super T instead of a Jr. T would be worth it.

Jr T's are okay, but even a 2001 Super T with 6" will feel like a lot more travel than the 7" Jr. T or your DJs. You should really try to get a cartridge damper fork - you won't even believe the difference.

It would be worth it to hold out longer to locate a good Super T (or pony up the money for one of the 2003 Super Ts I've seen in the B&S forum recently - THAT's a good fork. 32mm stanctions and cartridge dampers).

2 more inches of SSV travel won't smooth the ride out as much as you think.

Just my 2 cents. Budget constraints suck.

I agree.

Try to find an older SuperT or a 2003 Sherman Slider. Even though I still think the JrT is a good fork to start DH with (you can't rely on it too much to do the work and any other fork will be a pleasant upgrade...), as soon as you get better, you'll want to get rid of it very rapidly to get something better.

Always remember that the quality of the travel is much more important than the quantity of travel.

I'd say keep your DJ for the moment...the JrT won't be much better.

 

[MikeD]

I agree.

Try to find an older SuperT or a 2003 Sherman Slider. ...I'd say keep your DJ for the moment...the JrT won't be much better.

yes and yes.

 

[bagtagley]

Why not buy the Junior T for cheap and throw in a Super T damper upgrade?

 

[binary visions]

Why not buy the Junior T for cheap and throw in a Super T damper upgrade?

Super T damper upgrade is like $300. If you can get the Jr. T for a really REALLY cheap price, then it might be worth it, otherwise a used Super T will probably be cheaper than the Jr T + cartridges.

 

[johnbrittain]

just get a super monster

 

[Guntruck]

To upgrade my 04 Jr to a Super... (1 leg) it was only $110. I think the 03's came with two leg HSCV. One leg seems to get the job done.

 

[zane]

To upgrade my 04 Jr to a Super... (1 leg) it was only $110. I think the 03's came with two leg HSCV. One leg seems to get the job done.

Did you get the parts from marzocchi? Or did you send it to them and have them do all the work? And most of all, how does it compare to a super t?

I have an 03 jr t, I'm about 160 and ride a 19" stinky d (I'm almost 6'1"). The fork is fine for drops, but once the going gets fast and rough the fork is terrible. It spikes super-hard and makes nasty top-out noises. It would definitely need the super-t cartridges to be the slightest bit whistler friendly.......

The light weight is nice, but I'm still considering going to an 01 or 02 monster T very soon.

 

[nuttypoolog]

i agree... fine for drops and horrible for racing. i JUST sold mine in favor of a slider +. i got by on mine for a year, but i'm totally siked about being on a better fork.

 

[nicklin]

used super t, 2002-2003 ones are the best. the 02 has a sexy silver paintjob which is very bling-blingy

 

[Rik]

Not a paintjob as such, but a clearcoat over polished alu. It does tarnish over time, but whip off the stickers, and polish up a 02 Super, and you'll have one very sexy fork.

 

[Toshi]

yeah, zane, '01 monster

 

[RaID]

if youre not feeling the limitations of the travel quality of the DJ3
then i think the Jnr T will be fine for you, same quality of travel just more of it

ofcourse you could get a smoother super t but do you really need it?
if the only thing you dont like about the DJ is the lack of travel
then go for the Jnr

 

[zane]

yeah, zane, '01 monster

Yeah, after riding around on your 01 monster and ryans 03 monster this past weekend I realized just how crappy my fork really feels. I'll join the monster-t club pretty soon.

 

[InsaneP2Rider]

the 02 [super t] has a sexy silver paintjob which is very bling-blingy

yes i agree. i just got an '02 super. it looks awesome and it has HSCV so they're both a plus. and you can find '02 supers for good prices (i got mine for $300, and it's almost in perfect condition).


The jr. is a food fork for the price but i've heard that you get what you pay for because the have some problems at speed. good first DC though if you're not worried about that whole spiking thing

 

[zane]

Believe me, that spiking thing is something to worry about. After a fast super-rocky run my hands and arms were killing me, while my friend with an 03 monster was just fine.

 

[dwaugh]

Believe me, that spiking thing is something to worry about. After a fast super-rocky run my hands and arms were killing me, while my friend with an 03 monster was just fine.

That doesn't sound good. I still am gonna get the Jr.T but, now I need to know, where do I buy the cartridge or whatever it is to make one leg like a super T? I can afford a 110 dollar thing after a bit.
This is the way for me to go, because there are no 2003 or newer Super T's for 300 Dollars with a hub, and there is no way I am getting a Monster, I really dont like them at all.

 

[Repack]

I would say go for it.

Its true that a through axle is better than QR, and that the Super T is better than the Jr T, but you are only 15. 2" more travel and dual crowns will make a night-and-day difference for anyone, but especially for a 150#er.

The fork will last you long enough that you shouldn't have to worry about trashing it before you have saved enough $ for a new fork/bike. And when that day comes, your Jr. T will still be in good enough condition to put on a second bike.

Depending on your situation, you could even end up with a backup DH rig in a few years. That is a very nice position to be in given how DH parts tend to break.

 

[dwaugh]

I would say go for it.

Its true that a through axle is better than QR, and that the Super T is better than the Jr T, but you are only 15. 2" more travel and dual crowns will make a night-and-day difference for anyone, but especially for a 150#er.

The fork will last you long enough that you shouldn't have to worry about trashing it before you have saved enough $ for a new fork/bike. And when that day comes, your Jr. T will still be in good enough condition to put on a second bike.

Depending on your situation, you could even end up with a backup DH rig in a few years. That is a very nice position to be in given how DH parts tend to break.

I think you are right. But I forgot, I said the wrong number, I weigh 115 pounds. I'm also happy to say that I already have two bikes, one hardtail and the stinky. I think I'm gonna like this fork.

 

[Guntruck]

I need to know, where do I buy the cartridge or whatever it is to make one leg like a super T? I can afford a 110 dollar thing after a bit.

Allen sold me mine.