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Frames and Compnents That Aren't Made in Taiwan.

HardtailHack

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After seeing the US frames thread die I thought I'd have a go at getting a list together of all of the frame and component manufacturers that keep manufacture in house or at least away from "the far east".

Frames
Alutech(possible Taiwanese pre assembly) http://alutech-cycles.com/
Ancillotti http://www.ancillotti.com/
Antidote http://www.antidotebikes.com/
Army Bike Co http://www.armybikeco.com/

Brooklyn Machine Works http://www.brooklynmachineworks.com/

Chromag http://www.chromagbikes.com/
Cove http://covebike.com/
Curtis Bikes(lol at the muscle shirt on the front page) http://www.curtisbikes.co.uk/

Dobermann http://www.dobermannbikes.com/en/home
Darkside http://www.darksidezoo.com/en/en.html
Devinci http://www.devinci.com/home.html
Dubel http://www.deubelbicycles.com.au/

Ellsworth http://www.ellsworthbikes.com/
Empire http://www.empire-cycles.com/

Foes http://foesracing.com/site/
Frank The Welder(blog) http://frankthewelder.wordpress.com/tag/frank-the-welder/

Ghost Bikes(may be Taiwanese but assembled in Germany?) http://www.ghost-bikes.com/about/

Home Bicycles http://www.homebicycles.fr/
Hukk Bikes http://www.hukkbikes.com/

Intense http://www.intensecycles.com/

Karpiel http://www.karpiel.com/

Lynskey http://www.lynskeyperformance.com/
Lenz Sport http://www.lenzsport.com/mtb_main.php

MDE Bikes http://www.mdebikes.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=58&Itemid=50&lang=en
Morewood http://www.morewoodbikes.com/

Nicolai http://www.nicolai.net/
Nox http://www.noxcycles.com/

Omen Bikes http://omenbikes.com/
Orange http://www.orangebikes.co.uk/

Purgatory http://www.purgatorybikes.com/home/home.html

Sunn???? http://www.sunnbicycle.com/?lang=en
Superco http://www.ridesuperco.com/2010/

Trek(OCLV?) http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/mountain/gravity/session/session_9_9/#
Tonic Fab http://tonicfab.com/

Uriedog http://www.uriedog.blogspot.com.au/p/freeride.html

Xprezo http://www.xprezo.ca/

Zerode-for now http://www.zerode.co.nz/
Zonnenschein http://www.zonenschein.de/
Zumbi http://www.zumbicycles.com/


Suspension
Bos(May use Taiwanese castings/parts) http://www.bosmtb.com/
Cane Creek http://www.canecreek.com/
Kowa http://www.kowa-ss.co.jp/mtb.html
Manitou Dorado? http://www.manitoumtb.com/index.php?page=fork&fork=Dorado&discipline=all
DT Swiss http://www.dtswiss.com/
Elka http://www.marrowcomponents.com/DH.html
White Bros, some are Taiwanese http://www.mountainracingproducts.com/white-brothers/white-brothers-products/
Magura http://www.magura.com/en/home.html
Avalanche http://www.avalanchedownhillracing.com/

Components
Acros http://www.acros.de/
Arrow Racing http://www.arrowracing.com/home.html
Burgtec not bars http://www.burgtec.co.uk/
Cane Creek, Angleset only? http://www.canecreek.com/
Carbocage http://www.carbocage.com/
Chris King http://chrisking.com/
Chunked www.chunked.com.au/
DT Swiss some parts http://www.dtswiss.com/
E13? http://www.e13components.com/
Formula http://www.formula-italy.com/
FRM http://www.frmbike.biz/index.php?route=common/home
Goldtec http://www.mountainbikecomponents.co.uk/
Hadley Page???
Hope www.hopetech.com
Industry Nine http://www.industrynine.net/
Magura http://www.magura.com/en/home.html
Marrow Components http://www.marrowcomponents.com/DH.html
Mavic http://www.mavic.com/
Middleburn www.middleburn.co.uk/
Mozartt http://www.mozartt.com/
MRP http://www.mountainracingproducts.com/mrp/
Po1nt http://pointoneracing.myshopify.com/blogs/news
Protone http://protonepedals.com/
Race Face- some parts http://www.raceface.com/
Renthal http://renthalcycling.com/default.aspx
Shimano- XTR Saint, some SLX http://www.ridesaint.com/
Straitline http://www.straitlinecomponents.com/
Thomson http://bikethomson.com/
True Precision Components www.trueprecisioncomponents.com/
Tune http://www.tune.de/
Twenty6 http://www.twenty6products.com/
Weeze http://weeze.pl/en/
White Industries http://whiteind.com/
77 Designz http://www.77designz.de/

I have obviously missed 1/3 of the companies so please post the companies I have missed and add suggestions on how I can make the list easier to use.
 
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iRider

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Alutech: they now started to 'pre-fabricate' frames in Taiwan

You forgot Nicolai in you frame list!

Bos: castings and such are rumored to be made in Taiwan.
 

HardtailHack

used an iron once
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Ha ha I have an Avy damper and a Nicolai frame, forgot them both, oops.

I get nothing for the FTW site, added the blog.

Cheers gents.
 

Inclag

Turbo Monkey
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They took our jerbs!

I do know that Fox did/may still currently produce some castings in the Midwest for some of their forks as I met with the manufacturer at a Design2Part trade show a couple years ago. However, I'm pretty certain the initial tooling was made overseas and likely sent stateside for debugging and to shore up processing.
 

iRider

Turbo Monkey
Apr 5, 2008
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Alutech Pinion box is made in house, not sure what others.
Most Alutech bikes are made in house. They started, however, to make their Enduro bike 'Fanes' in TW. From what I understand the tubes are made, milled and tacked together in TW and then send to Germany where the final welding happens.
 

norbar

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Bikael Molton

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great thread.

we should do a whole sticky about the production of our bicycles, with links to these country of origin threads, plus technical theory and production methods (hydroforming, CNC, carbon lay-up, etc).
 

Dogboy

Turbo Monkey
Apr 12, 2004
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So many of these European brands are made in Asia. Differences in country of origin laws allow them to claim they are made domestically.
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
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Shouldn't this be changed to "Frame and components made by white people"?
2nd that. I never understood why a frame made in Peru or France is ok for US people but in Taiwan are not. I understand local patriotism but that's not it.
 

NoUseForAName

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Mar 26, 2008
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I think this thread is stupid, but:

Chromag rings, stems, QRs and some frames are built/machined from billet in Canada.
 

descente

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Sandy Eggo
bicycle fabrications, formerly known as SWD....

morewood, at least the makulu and kalula still are RSA made i believe. heard rumor that the DW designed bike was going overseas, who knows whats going on with that company anymore.
 

DirtMcGirk

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Feb 21, 2008
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I think this thread is stupid, but:
Why is this tread stupid? I think its a great resource for people who want to know where their money ends up. While I love bikes by companies like Specialized and Santa Cruz, the fact that they now have 0 domestic production is starting to catch up to them. While several would espouse the view that you can control your production, and the inherent problems that come up within that, in Taiwan just as well as you can as if they were in Idaho, I have to disagree.

When companies hit these delays, it causes a ripple effect. Company A has a delay because Taiwan f-ed up the order, things fail quality control. As a result, there are no frames for the majority of riding season. This causes all by the true brand diehards to have to scramble and find other components/frames if they have any hope of having a riding season. With the DH world, where the number of frames are pretty scant, this causes shortages.

Instead of watching out for their customers, companies that choose this method of cost cutting in their production run the very real and tangible risk of alienating their customers. This has happened in the past and put companies out of business when mountain biking and DH in particular were in its infancy.

And yet, these companies continue to make the same mistake, never learning from one another and their failures. The hubris and what I am going to assume are thin promises made by Taiwan producers are legendary, assuring production dates and levels that can only really be made to happen in a vacuum.

The end result is either you leave a bunch of people with the disposable income to spend $5k on a bicycle high and dry, or when production catches up you've got too many frames as your loyal base has moved onto another company who makes just as good of a product who had what the customer needed when they needed it. Then your frames end up getting blown out for 60% off on HucknRoll. Great business model.
 

jonKranked

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Why is this tread stupid? I think its a great resource for people who want to know where their money ends up. While I love bikes by companies like Specialized and Santa Cruz, the fact that they now have 0 domestic production is starting to catch up to them. While several would espouse the view that you can control your production, and the inherent problems that come up within that, in Taiwan just as well as you can as if they were in Idaho, I have to disagree.

When companies hit these delays, it causes a ripple effect. Company A has a delay because Taiwan f-ed up the order, things fail quality control. As a result, there are no frames for the majority of riding season. This causes all by the true brand diehards to have to scramble and find other components/frames if they have any hope of having a riding season. With the DH world, where the number of frames are pretty scant, this causes shortages.
you do realize domestic production can have delays as well, right?
 

DirtMcGirk

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Feb 21, 2008
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you do realize domestic production can have delays as well, right?
I know this all too well these days.

However, when one of our subs is doing a run, one of my jobs is to fly out and grab some random samples. I take them to the client, they quality check them. I can do a stop and retool in under 40 hours at this point. You can't even do the shipping or a flight out and back to Taiwan in that time. Couple with that the fact that you're not doing business face to face, which you know just as well as I do that you can tell when a vendor is BS'ing you a lot better when you look them in the eye.

I believe that even if the companies knew in advance that there were some "issues" that the people they have on the ground in Taiwan tend to minimize the truth of this in order to fill the contract and move onto the next production run. When you do finally get your product, there's **** all you can do if there is a problem until the vendor has a gap in their production schedule.
 

norbar

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I know this all too well these days.



I believe that even if the companies knew in advance that there were some "issues" that the people they have on the ground in Taiwan tend to minimize the truth of this in order to fill the contract and move onto the next production run. When you do finally get your product, there's **** all you can do if there is a problem until the vendor has a gap in their production schedule.
Yeah if my job was quality control in Taiwan I'd also ignore all the potential quality issues just so we can move to the next production run because apparently spicy food makes you stupid.


Why would a QC guy ignore issues in TW and not in the US? Please enlighten me?