Oh, and agreed.
CT: 27 dead including 18 kids in CT school shooting. There are no words - WTF?!
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Jeezus you're dense. I rode the short bus and even I know your arguments are baseless and sophomoric at best. Now please STFU so the rest of us can continue a rational discourse on the subject.
Anybody bothered by the irony of my avatar relative to this thread ?
Maybe someone from the NRA will take notice and lobby congress to pass legislation to arm house pets.
Maybe someone from the NRA will take notice and lobby congress to pass legislation to arm house pets.
In China on the same day an attacker had 30 minutes with 22 children and a kitchen knife. Zero died and only a few were seriously injured. You got nothing.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/22-kids-slashed-in-china-elementary-school-knife-attack/
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No I think you anti-gun folks will cry about your picture. Why are my arguments baseless? Because you dont agree with them. Go cry somemore.
If knives are so effective why are guns the primary weapon of the military from the 1600's to modern day?
No one is arguing the lethality of a knife, we are just saying guns are far more lethal.
Becaue guns are more effective, no one is going to argue that. But what is the trade off? More knife crime and the bad guys will still posses the firearms.
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He's a genius, law enforcement and military all around can slash their budgets overnight with knives...
There is zero evidence to support that more guns will make you safer, either between states or countries. US states that have strict gun control (meaning assault weapon bans, trigger locks, or safe storage requirements) also have lower rates of gun violence. You got nothing.
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I don't know how I've managed to live a life of freedom in a bunch of countries without the 'essential' right of owning a gun.
Yep. WRONG. I see CA right there at number four. You're an idiot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state
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You're using wikipedia to go up against Syadasti ? 
Sorry I dont know what a Syadasti is. And yes, I am.
CA=Strong gun laws.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/12/17/connecticut-gun-laws-among-the-nations-strictest/
CA=Most firearm related killings
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state
CA=Strong gun laws.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/12/17/connecticut-gun-laws-among-the-nations-strictest/
CA=Most firearm related killings
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state
That's a single year junior, you fail statistics. This has been analyzed much more deeply than checking one year of numbers including numerous meta analyses
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/01/the-geography-of-gun-deaths/69354/
See here for the newest, CA was 13th lowest in 2009: http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparemaptable.jsp?ind=113&cat=2
Sorry, go back and read mine again. 2009 is two years older then 2011..good try though.
Right you haven't a f*cking clue, rates are compared per 100K, not raw numbers.
Did you read your link from wikipedia, it clearly notes its from a single year, 2004:
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I see some raw numbers in the far left..1,220 for CA second place goes to Texas at 699
And raw numbers alone have nothing to do with murder rates. Within states or between countries, greater gun ownership in developed countries has never reduced homicide rates. If you check out the OECD numbers the US has an obvious problem from our gun culture - we enjoy rates more similar to developing nations (ie third world).
You and your nutjob friends can move to Nigeria. Its just what you deserve.
I dont remember saying they did reduce homicide rates, your the one who said the states with strict gun laws have less crime and I proved you wrong by showing you CA's numbers. Lol what I deserve..
http://gunssavelives.net/
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You keep going with your what-ifs. The rest of us will keep going with the reality based stuff.
funny....i can give rep from my phone.
Soon as I get off this phone, I owe you rep.
No, unfortunately the reality in the USA is that many guns are owned and operated by fvckface dimwitted retards. The same ones who concentrate on and argue about their own personal right to compensate for their small dick by hoarding weapons, over the welfare of their country, community and it's children.
Carry on brother.
Strict gun laws in that article are defined as one of those three criteria (trigger locks, assault bans, or safe requirements) and the US numbers still show the state laws work, so you haven't changed anything.
I have relatives in GA that are as ignorant as you are but I enjoy 1/3 the gun crime and significantly lower crime overall despite living in a much more densely populated state - their guns have netted them nothing. I live in a safer, freer community with less crime - gated communities - what's that? Not much to be proud of though if you compare to almost any other OECD nation.
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Then have 'home boy' find me some that show what % of gun related crime in America is gang related.
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Ouch! Clearly I underestimated you.
How about you ask him. He doesn't work for me.
If gun control is resulting in less homicide, its irrelevant.
And the US isn't the only OECD nation in the world with gangs and yet its murder rates are at the top...
I've posted this site before, but here is another good section - they don't prevent crime:
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/research/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use/index.html
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Your arguments are baseless because they're nothing more than regurgitated NRA and Right Wing talking points. The car analogy attempt and the knife comparison are not even your ideas.
I'll try to break it down a little further for you.
When a driver gets behind the wheel their intention is transportation to where ever the want to go. In the unfortunate event of a collision with resulting injuries it's called an accident because it was unintentional. When a homicidal/suicidal maniac acquires an assault rifle, whether illegally or legally, their intent is to inflict harm. There is a big difference between the two scenarios and if you don't see that then you are being purposely obtuse or you're an idiot.
Same goes for the knife comparison. The difference of efficiency in killing between an semi-automatic weapon and a knife is observable by most reasonable adults.
I'll try to break it down a little further for you.
When a driver gets behind the wheel their intention is transportation to where ever the want to go. In the unfortunate event of a collision with resulting injuries it's called an accident because it was unintentional. When a homicidal/suicidal maniac acquires an assault rifle, whether illegally or legally, their intent is to inflict harm. There is a big difference between the two scenarios and if you don't see that then you are being purposely obtuse or you're an idiot.
Same goes for the knife comparison. The difference of efficiency in killing between an semi-automatic weapon and a knife is observable by most reasonable adults.
lolol no kidding it wasn't my idea..what if I said it was a snow mobile? Is that better. What is an assault rifle if you dont mind me asking? And all your ideas are how you want to be a nanny state..you know left wing talking points?...
You see, what we are trying to do here is engage in a meaningful discussion by exchanging ideas in an attempt to gain better understanding of one another. Spouting out your political party's talking points with no attempt at an original thought is counter productive to the exercise.
