[Teamsuzukirm19z]

Im 5'9 and ride a med. Specialzied enduro. I was riding with a 50mm sunline stem its great for everything but xc it is just to short for riding cross country. For me to like cross country I have to be able to have fun coming down the hills. Keeping in mind I really want it to feel as much like a mini DH as possible while still being able to climb up some hills with out killing my lower back.Think a 65mm would help much or would I have to go to the 80mm to really make any difference? thanks for any advice

 

[bullcrew]

70mm thomson.
I run 45mm direct for DH and 70mm for FR/all mtn.

 

[SPINTECK]

I'd even run a 50 depending on your top tube and torso measurements. AS tight as you can go and still climb semi comfortably- it's that simple for me.

 

[El Gordo]

I have a brand new Syncros AM STem 70mm its only 190grs its White real nice still in the box if your interested.. PM me

 

[Teamsuzukirm19z]

I have a 50mm and was not semi comfortable thats why I was thinking the 65mm. I think my bar height might be contributing to the problem. When the seat is at proper height for pedaling, (I don't think you will hear this too often) I think my bars are TOO LOW. I already have 1.5in rise, does anyone use 2in rise bars for all mountain??

 

[Tootrikky]

I have a 65 mm Easton Havoc 25.4 pm if interested.

50 mm is perfect for dh w/ any tt length. Anything else....longer or shorter is a compromise imho.

that being said I am rockin a 70mm Thomson w/ 28" Azonic's on my am bike which i have found works the best for me at 6'2" riding a relatively small 24" top tube. I wish I could rock a 50 stem, but it's just not feasible for uphills and slow techy /tight stuff, possibly with with wider Sunline/Gravity/Burgtec bars but our XC trails in the PNW get pretty tight for bars over 28".

 

[spalm12]

For me 70mm is just right; might be able to get away w/ 75mm but not the most common size. If your looking for light weight and very nice craftmans ship i would take a look at the Thomson's. I would also recommend Hope , a little litter than the traditional 25.4 Thomson as well.

 

[Cant Climb]

I like 90 for all mountain, 0 degree rise.....tried 70 was too short, too cramped, lost leverage on climbs.....

 

[kidwoo]

70 on all my xc bikes of present and past.

 

[Teamsuzukirm19z]

I am beginning to be more interested in bar height, anyone have any numbers center of bar to ground for their AM bike? Im 5'9 so im sure that comes into play on bar height and stem choise I also run 28mm wide bars. My fork is adjustabe 110-140 I usually like to keep it around 120mm when riding xc.

 

[ctrailfreak]

I also run 28mm wide bars.

That's about stem width!

In all seriousness I run a 70mm for XC, AM, and a 50mm for DH, FR, and Street. 28" bars on all my bikes but my street/park bike. I run 26 3/4" wide bars on it.

 

[McGRP01]

I'm 5'9" and ride a medium TBC Covert w/ a 65mm stem.

 

[Teamsuzukirm19z]

I think I will just try a 65mm thanks for the help guys, if anyone has bar heights im still interested in those numbers.

 

[ctrailfreak]

I'm 6'6" tall. I run 1.5" rise, 28" wide, Race Face Diabolus bars, 70mm Race Face Diabolus stem, with a 130mm Manitou Sherman fork, on my Kona Hoss Dee-lux, that I use as my AM/XC bike. Works perfect in climbs, and can still tuck in corners. Very stable when flying off stuff, or ripping down hills.

 

[bikenweed]

too short, too cramped, lost leverage on climbs.....

Hmmmm blaming it all on the stem, are we now?

 

[Cant Climb]

Hmmmm blaming it all on the stem, are we now?

haha.....i have long arms and long legs for my height.

Might try the 70 again, didn;t have it on there too long. Still think flattish cornering and climbing will suffer a bit.........which is how you spend 95% or your time on an AM ride.......

 

[Acadian]

70 on all my xc bikes of present and past.

same here...

 

[Dartman]

I was surprised at the difference 15-20mm in stem lenth can make. See if your LBS has some stems to try out for size until you find one you like.

 

[Tom Wilkinson]

I'd even run a 50 depending on your top tube and torso measurements. AS tight as you can go and still climb semi comfortably- it's that simple for me.

I have a reasonably long back and wondering what kind of top tube measurements you think would suit a 50mm. I tried it on mine and it felt like I was really trussed up on the uphills. Maybe this is something I will get used to, but it feels quite unnatural

 

[saruti]

35mm stem on my AM bike.
feel great

 

[Bikael Molton]

Nice thread resurrection. Started in 2007 with 70mm stems for All-mounting... right now in 2014 it's called Enduroing and I use a -25mm stem.

In 2019 the stem will be behind the seatpost and the bars will be wider than the bike's wheelbase.

 

[sethimus]

35mm stem on my AM bike.
feel great

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