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    Neutral Density Filter question

    I love, love, love shooting with my f1.8 35mm prime.

    What I don't love, is fighting the sunlight for that beautiful, shallow DOF the lens gives you when the shot calls for it. I'm looking at some ND filters to help that out, but not sure if -1 stop is sufficient enough, or should I go up to -3?

    Anyone have some experience they would like to share on this?
    I'll get there eventually....

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    if you are fighting tough sun, it's likely that 1 stop won't cut it.

    next time you are in those conditions, just take note of what aperture you have to shoot at min ISO/max shutter, and then see how many stops it's over f/1.8

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    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search...tialSearch=yes


    Don't mess around with any of the other brands. They suck. The singh ray sucks less but still color shifts a little. That heliopan is the shlt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidwoo View Post
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search...tialSearch=yes

    Don't mess around with any of the other brands. They suck. The singh ray sucks less but still color shifts a little. That heliopan is the shlt.
    I've been looking at those but cry a little bit inside every time I consider purchasing one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidwoo View Post
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search...tialSearch=yes


    Don't mess around with any of the other brands. They suck. The singh ray sucks less but still color shifts a little. That heliopan is the shlt.
    your thoughts on lee filters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevew View Post
    your thoughts on lee filters?
    I've only borrowed a set of grad NDs to do some sunset stuff. The kit I used seemed pretty legit but I didn't geek out on them very hard and LOOK for color shifting. It's magenta/pink that usually shows up the worst but it's not something you'll notice where I used them where the filtered part is only above the horizon in pretty sunset colors. That's all I got on those guys. They seem to be somewhat well respected in the realm of 'not schott glass' filters.

    I just mentioned the vario ND thing because it's kind of sweet having one filter to cover 6 to 8 stops of darkenationing™

    The only problem I've had with the ones I've used (including the heliopan) is that since they're essentially two polarizers, you'll get some really subtle crosshatch patterns. It's nothing you'd notice in an individual shot but when comparing wide open to full 'closed' you'll see the shading. For stills it's not big deal at all. I only noticed it because of some of the timelapse stuff I shoot where I've tried to rotate the thing across multiple frames.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polandspring88 View Post
    I've been looking at those but cry a little bit inside every time I consider purchasing one.
    Shlt, I throw a party for myself for buying one every time I use mine.
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    Thank you very much for all of your responses. I figured the -1 stop on that filter would be not enough.

    But, on the other hand, if my filter costs more than my lens....I need to think more creative with my lens.

    "darkenationing™" Strong work, sir. Great word.
    I'll get there eventually....

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    Would setting a custom white balance with the filter in place help with the color shifts of less expensive filters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bean View Post
    Would setting a custom white balance with the filter in place help with the color shifts of less expensive filters?
    Usually yes.


    Unfortunately one thing you can't tune out is the image softness that also comes with some of the cheaper filters. I'd suggest that whatever you buy, do some good locked down tripod shots in various light and do comparisons of what your camera looks like with/without whatever filter you get. It if looks like crap, return them immediately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhound View Post
    I love, love, love shooting with my f1.8 35mm prime.

    What I don't love, is fighting the sunlight for that beautiful, shallow DOF the lens gives you when the shot calls for it. I'm looking at some ND filters to help that out, but not sure if -1 stop is sufficient enough, or should I go up to -3?

    Anyone have some experience they would like to share on this?
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