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04-19-2006, 11:31 AM
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Anyone ever heard of heating your gasoline before it hits your engine to increase MPG
There is a guy here who just dropped $70 on a device to heat your gasoline before it hits the engine. Supposedly it creates more vapor with increases MPG.
It sounds like a load of crap to me, but has anyone heard of this?
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04-19-2006, 11:38 AM
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Well I know you want the air going into your intake as cold as possible, but I thought the same was with gas too. You didn't want it hot or it wouldn't atomize correctly. Seems funny that you would want "hot" gas. I dunno though never thought about it in that sense.
Personally I think if he got a tornado fuel saver or something he'd see the benifits more, or maybe some Prolong or something else :looney:
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04-19-2006, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Spunger
Personally I think if he got a tornado fuel saver or something he'd see the benifits more, or maybe some Prolong or something else :looney:
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are there any non-manufacturer-funded data that actually demonstrate a fuel economy benefit for either this tornado or prolong?
as far as i am concerned (until proven otherwise) all anecdotal increases in mpg from these devices come from the driver altering their driving habits after installing them. placebo effect plain and simple
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04-19-2006, 12:29 PM
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snake oil
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04-19-2006, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Tenchiro
There is a guy here who just dropped $70 on a device to heat your gasoline before it hits the engine. Supposedly it creates more vapor with increases MPG.
It sounds like a load of crap to me, but has anyone heard of this?
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There was in article in a magazine (I think it was Hot Rod) about 20 years ago about Smokey Yunick (sp?) who had built a car that made pretty decent horsepower and got crazy gas mileage at the time.
He had found a way to heat the gas so it vaporized "perfectly" as to create a more complete burn. I don't remember the details but appparantly it was possible. The key was to find the correct temperature and place to heat the fuel so it would not cause vapor lock. Try a Google search to see if any info comes up. My bet is if the article was accurate some big oil company paid to make the technology "disappear".
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04-19-2006, 01:04 PM
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I think I heard something like this with R/C cars.
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04-19-2006, 01:08 PM
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I suppose I will wait for him to report any big mileage changes, but I think if he sees anything it will be negligible.
Most of the articles I have seen on it are just "geek science".
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04-19-2006, 01:10 PM
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I have a 100 mpg carburator in my car that does the 1/4 in 9.6 but I can't tell you how it works
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04-19-2006, 01:10 PM
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uh...rip-off.
When I get in my car from April-mid-November it is hot as hell inside. I am sure my gas is hot too, but my MPG stays the same.
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04-19-2006, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Toshi
are there any non-manufacturer-funded data that actually demonstrate a fuel economy benefit for either this tornado or prolong?
as far as i am concerned (until proven otherwise) all anecdotal increases in mpg from these devices come from the driver altering their driving habits after installing them. placebo effect plain and simple
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I can attest to the Tornado and K & N air filter. I installed them at different times the filter first improved milage about 1 mile per gallon and after 10000 miles installed the tornado and got an additional 1.5 mpg.
This was on my 03 VW GTI VR6, and if anything i drove the car harder. It got a little bit better sound and i flogged the hell out of that car. So for about $100 i went from 18 to 20.5 mpg and when you drive 20k miles a year it adds up. I just added a K & N to my Toyota Sequioa last night and will see what happens with this I have been getting about 16 town 17 highway we will see.
Of course this wasnt a scientific study but i believe enough in it
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04-19-2006, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dhbuilder
BOGUS !!!
you want your fuel to be as cool as possible.
hot fuel vapor locks.
just ask any race mechanic.
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We put tubes inside of fuel tanks so we can fill them with dry ice to cool the fuel in the drag boats.
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04-19-2006, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by N8
Too bad the K&N filter lets a lot of crap into the engine...
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You made the same claim when I posted a thread about K&N filters a while back
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=129342
and yet no one was able to come up with any scientific proof to back it up. If my K&N filter is going to f-up my engine, I honestly want to know about it, but all I got from that thread was a bunch of anecdotal stories and hearsay.
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04-19-2006, 01:43 PM
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Man, I need to sell $70 junk to folks.
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