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11-09-2004, 02:51 PM
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great... 10 US Soldiers dead in Falluja
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...nm/iraq_usa_dc
RIP guys, wonder why GWB didn't do this *before* the election??
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11-09-2004, 02:58 PM
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Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
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This assault has been up to Primie Ministar Allawi, i thought, not GWB. Anyway look on the bright side,
"Enemy casualties, I think, are significantly higher than I expected," Metz said, adding that "a very small number" of enemy fighters had been captured.
This is urban warfare. We're gunna take some casualties. I believe I have read this is the biggest urban offensive since the Marines in vietnam at Hue City.
History in the making folks.
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11-09-2004, 03:07 PM
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Oh yeah... I'm sure the Iraqi governing council is in complete control of all the decisions.
However, to have only lost 16 soldiers in a 2 day urban battle, where the enemy has had time to plan and booby-trap everything is actually doing pretty well. I'd bet more people see it as a positive for Bush than a negative.
update from MSNBC
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The fighting claimed three American lives — part of a surge in casualties that killed 16 U.S. troops in the past two days across Iraq. U.S. officials said that on Monday, they recorded 130 attacks.
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11-09-2004, 03:15 PM
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I blame Kerry for this!
I he hadn't such a waste and blown the election he'd be in charge there real soon..
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11-09-2004, 03:18 PM
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Frankenbike
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I blame Kerry for this!
I he hadn't such a waste and blown the election he'd be in charge there real soon..
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slow down there killer... I think you missed a couple keys
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11-09-2004, 03:20 PM
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no, I blame the guy who successfully "protected" us from the WMD that wasn't there. in the words of Colin Powell, "You broke it, you bought it Mr. President".
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11-09-2004, 03:21 PM
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Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
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no, I blame the guy who successfully "protected" us from the WMD that wasn't there. in the words of Colin Powell, "You broke it, you bought it Mr. President". 
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Colon Powell? The guy that testified in front of the UN saying that Iraq was an immediate threat as he held a vile of fake anthrax? Yeah, good quote there.
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11-09-2004, 03:27 PM
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Colon Powell? The guy that testified in front of the UN saying that Iraq was an immediate threat as he held a vile of fake anthrax?
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Another formerly strong personality who got on his knees for GWB.
How does he do it...
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11-09-2004, 04:27 PM
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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/09/in...9cnd-elec.html
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Falluja Assault Roils Iraqi Politics
BAGHDAD, Iraq, Nov. 9 - In the first major political backlash over the siege of Falluja, the country's most prominent Sunni political party said today that it was withdrawing from the interim Iraqi government, while the leading group of Sunni clerics called for Iraqis to boycott the upcoming elections.
The moves signaled that popular protest against the American-led invasion, particularly among Sunni Arabs, will likely grow in the coming days.
A boycott by Sunnis, if indeed one comes to pass, would threaten the legitimacy of the outcome and could undermine the rationale for attacking Falluja, which was to drive the insurgents out of the city so residents could take part in the elections.
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GO AMERICA!
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11-09-2004, 04:32 PM
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Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
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That isnt exactly good news chang. I mean, if your interest is saving human lives and all
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11-09-2004, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BurlyShirley
That isnt exactly good news chang. I mean, if your interest is saving human lives and all 
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Sarcasm, dude...
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11-09-2004, 04:40 PM
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GO AMERICA!
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Easy there killer, some of us have people who are very dear to us over there risking their lives. And a large portion of that "some of us" could give a f*** whether you deem the end , or the means, as a worthwhile cause.
To take an extraordinarily complex and ugly situation and reduce it to fodder for e-bashing is simplistic to the point of being extremely offensive.
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Good job for brainless fools then. No great loss if they don't come back.
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11-09-2004, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by s1ngletrack
Easy there killer, some of us have people who are very dear to us over there risking their lives. And a large portion of that "some of us" could give a f*** whether you deem the end , or the means, as a worthwhile cause.
To take an extraordinarly complex and ugly situation and reduce it to fodder for e-bashing is simplistic to the point of being extremely offensive.
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Consider yourself offended then. This is a stupid, pointless, illegal war. Anyone with half a brain would have refused to serve, even if that meant going to prison.
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11-09-2004, 04:43 PM
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VOTE S1NGLETRACK!! Right on the money.
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11-09-2004, 04:44 PM
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Consider yourself offended then. This is a stupid, pointless, illegal war. Anyone with half a brain would have refused to serve, even if that meant going to prison.
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You expect me to dignify that with a response?
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Good job for brainless fools then. No great loss if they don't come back.
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