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    Quote Originally Posted by William42 View Post
    I've ridden one. I'm leaning towards it right now, its $750 more then the 2009 glory with a 40/saint build on it, and that aint chump change for me.
    Just steal one from OGripper.

    Everyone else seems to.
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    a couple oddball ideas. none are true plow bikes but do soak up the bumps. all are available used for fairly reasonable prices. you wont get a creampuff 2011/12 bike though.
    rotec RL9
    cove shocker
    morewood makulu
    303WC
    demo 8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Reducer View Post
    a couple oddball ideas. none are true plow bikes but do soak up the bumps. all are available used for fairly reasonable prices. you wont get a creampuff 2011/12 bike though.
    rotec RL9
    cove shocker
    morewood makulu
    303WC
    demo 8
    Very good post.

    I reckon a Rotec RL9 + 1.5* AngleSet would be pretty f***cking fun.



    Also, Cove Shocker is a really underrated bike...
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    another vote for a zerode. once you ride one you realize that they are truly in a whole other class.

    Here's one for $3000:

    http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1243879/
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    Why not an older gen jedi? Or try to look for a deal on the legend (thought but they happen)
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    I'll just drop this off here:
    Devinci Wilson (-11 and forward)

    Handles the rough like nobodys business and is still pop-able in machine built stuff. Blows the old Glory I had out of the water any day, simply a better performing bike on all accounts IMO.

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    Or maybe the new Gambler.
    Should handle the rough well, according a few reviews. Plus you can set it to your favourite geo.

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    Keep in mind bump absorption is a function of leverage curve, travel, and axle path - there's no reason you can't have a well designed ~8" travel bike without excessive CS/WB growth that still absorbs bumps well. There's also no reason that a bike that absorbs bumps well can't be poppy and playful too.

    If you go with the v10, I'd get the carbon - the geometry prior is a bit short/high/steep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William42 View Post
    Giant glory (2008-2009 only, don't really want to look at used bikes older then that)
    Curious; why not the '10-'11 Glory? What changed after '09?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianjenn View Post
    I will have a used one built soon if you are coming down let me know we can meet you down there with it. The wheelbase growth is not as noticeable on the G1 versus the Jedi. I could meet you in Marin but the rocks on tam and the tickets may not be worth it......

    The build on it will be good and cost as well. Just saying a brand new Dorado in garage now waiting for it.
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    Canfield Jedi for sure. Damn thing feels like it accelerates as you hit square edges. I know you said that you don't like the extending wheelbase feel of the Jedi, but I'm curious how much time have you spent riding one? Once you ride one for a couple of days, you get used to the extending wheelbase and can actually use it to your benefit...especially popping out of corners as the wheelbase shortens .

    I think I am about to put my 2010 Jedi frame up for sale to pick up a 2013....so if you are at all interested shoot me a PM.
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    I've got an '08 Glory, size L, listed on PB for a very reasonable price. Super-clean rig.

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    thanks for the help guys, a few thoughts:

    The jedi is out for me for a few reasons, but each one is enough by itself. Even the older ones cost an arm and a leg, and I'm sticking to a budget. I have ride time on it as well, and even if it wasn't so expensive, it still wouldn't be on the top of my list. While its bump absorbing abilities are great, I just can't get around shifting my balance around so much on a bike, which I feel like I had to with that bike. I'm sure its something I could bring myself to get used to, but there just isn't any reason to. I like bikes that have a natural balance point that doesn't shift around too much. I know the glory has this (used to own one) and I know my session has it. It would be a sideways or downward switch for me based on what I like. Its no doubt an extremely high quality bike, it pedals really well, I'm it gobbles up rocks well, and I'm a confident enough jumper that I have no problems getting it into the air, but it doesn't feel instantly natural, and feels more forced throwing it around off lips of jumps and in corners. It works for some people, and if it does its one of if not the best bike out there, but it isn't for me.

    The zerode is out because 3,000 is the lowest price I have heard of or seen on one, and thats above my budget. I also don't have any ride time on one, and I'm really hesitant to buy a bike I have no ride time on that has such a dramatic wheel path. I worry that it would be similar to the jedi in that regard, and I'm not really willing to throw an extra 500 in over a very nice v10 build for a bike that I have no experience with and have worries about.

    The glory is high on my list because its got a good build, its very inexpensive (around 1800) and I have lots of ride time on one. I know that thing can gobble rocks like fyck and is just easy to ride. the pre-10 ones are on my list, because while I work at a giant shop and could easily get one of the newer ones, I really didn't care for the geometry on the 2010-2011-2012 (went from 9 inches of travel to 8, and the new one feels decidedly steep in the front end, and the TT measurements didn't do it for me. It felt like a pretty standard 8 inch travel DH made for a bit of everything, and I feel like it would be a worse version of what I currently own), and the 2013 is either too expensive for the nice one, or comes with a ****ty build for the low end. Its also back to 8 in of travel.

    Udi, its very possible that an 8 inch travel bike would totally suit my needs. I know the sunday gobbles rocks pretty well, but its a pita to find them and I'd have to deal with a new shock, grinding links, and a whole bunch of other things. I'm pretty willing to bet the pivot phoenix would work for me based on how the sunday feels, but again, I run into price issue. The revolt rode great, but there is no way in hell I'm buying a used revolt. The undead is out of my price range. I'm looking at getting complete bikes with really good builds for the same as most of the FRAMES would cost of all the 8 inch bikes I can think of that do a fair job at monstertruckin. Also, I'm past the point of being a hardcore "shave every second I can and make every little difference I can to the clock" rider. I pull over by the side of the trail to get my breath 2-3 times a run. I'm honest enough with myself to say I'm quick and willing to do decently large jumps/drops/tech, but I am mostly just going for "I want to get a feeling of speed, and I want something that I wont feel so much fatigue from the little bumps over the course of a day of riding. My session is baddass. I really really like it. Its very controlled, its easy as hell to muscle around, it drifts predictably, jumps extremely well, and I'm pretty confident that I'll be faster on it then any of the bikes I'm looking at simply because I feel so comfortable and confident with it. Really I'm just looking for something to cut down on fatigue without giving up too much in the way of having a good time. The v10c would be sweet no doubt, but again, I'm paying for school right now, I'm saving up to pay for a wedding, I have to buy a wedding band, etc etc. I've got other priorities and spending 4-5k on "the best used bike out there" just isn't in the cards for me right now.

    I do worry that the v10 is both high and steep, I've only ridden two of them for a run each, and one of them was setup poorly, but I remember both of them as feeling fairly quick and easy to ride, as well as being a little more regular once its sagged. Would I prefer if it was a 65 degree HA and a 14.0-14.2BB unsagged? absolutely. Do I think I can manage on a 67 with a 14.8? Yeah.

    The rotec is a little to "small brand" for me. Honestly I'd prefer buying something like glory or sc simply because, even if they don't carry that bike anymore, there is a better chance of them finding some spare parts for me if I need them down the line. I have also noticed that bikes from the big companies tend to be more refined in terms of the little details - specialized, sc, trek, giant (to a lesser extent) are all pretty solid at getting their engineers to hammer out all the smaller details that make life easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Reducer View Post
    a couple oddball ideas. none are true plow bikes but do soak up the bumps. all are available used for fairly reasonable prices. you wont get a creampuff 2011/12 bike though.
    rotec RL9
    cove shocker
    morewood makulu
    303WC
    demo 8

    The Morewood Makulu gets a big thumbs up from me, had it for the last 2 years or so and its awesome. Poppy when you need it to be and cant eat the rough with the best of them at the same time. It certainly suits my lack of finesse well and has saved my ass on more times than id like to remember

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    What about a used 303 or Legend?

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