Build delemma - Page 2

James · 11-04-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SuspectDevice

Anything Italian that isn't a solid color is invariably horrible looking... Same thing goes for the Beligans (Eddy, stop it!)...

Sure, some Italians have style... but just as many of them are Joey's. I would assume that's why Colnago makes EP's and C50's in single color paint jobs as well...

I bet that C50 was a sick deal though!

I tend to like a bunch of Colnago paint jobs, but some I could do without. This is the same as the ST01, just with a white base instead of 3K weave. It was my favorite color that year.

The frame was pretty expensive, even at landed cost, when I bought it while working for the Colnago distributor. The high Euro/low Dollar had a lot to do with that though. I feel it was worth every penny to me, but if I'd had to pay retail, or even wholesale, I doubt I could have swung it on my meager bike biz salary.

Mr. Hankey · 11-04-2009, 04:13 PM

I vote for SRAM Red, but anything other than Shimano would be an improvement. I've never used any Campy stuff, and Shimano has never served me wrong, I just hate the cables coming out of the side of the shifters, and I think Di2 is simply retarded.

As far as the bike itself. I like the way it looks, but I am half Italian myself so my taste may suck.

James · 11-04-2009, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Hankey

I vote for SRAM Red, but anything other than Shimano would be an improvement. I've never used any Campy stuff, and Shimano has never served me wrong, I just hate the cables coming out of the side of the shifters, and I think Di2 is simply retarded.

As far as the bike itself. I like the way it looks, but I am half Italian myself so my taste may suck.

I lurve me some Dura Ace 7800, but that's just me. I have it on most of my bikes. I have Red too, but I prefer DA. I know, I know, but there it is.

Di2 is amazing, utterly amazing. I can really close to buying it for a bike a little while ago, but then backed off at the last minute. Next year probably.

Mr. Hankey · 11-04-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by James

I lurve me some Dura Ace 7800, but that's just me. I have it on most of my bikes. I have Red too, but I prefer DA. I know, I know, but there it is.

Di2 is amazing, utterly amazing. I can really close to buying it for a bike a little while ago, but then backed off at the last minute. Next year probably.

I just can't get over the stupid cable thing with the Shimanos. I guess that is a good thing for them, if that is my only compliant. That and the weight.

I've not ridden a Di2 bike yet. My friend did, and said it was sweet, but I can't see any reason to bring electronics into a simple mechanical function that has worked forever. The fact that it still has wires is just dumb with everything being wireless these days. I heard there is a new wireless version on the way though.

I guess if you prefer Shimano over Red, then I suppose Campy is okay. For simplicity I would just put on the 10 speed stuff that fell into your hands. Unless you really like the new hoods that well.

James · 11-04-2009, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Hankey

I just can't get over the stupid cable thing with the Shimanos. I guess that is a good thing for them, if that is my only compliant. That and the weight.

I've not ridden a Di2 bike yet. My friend did, and said it was sweet, but I can't see any reason to bring electronics into a simple mechanical function that has worked forever. The fact that it still has wires is just dumb with everything being wireless these days. I heard there is a new wireless version on the way though.

I guess if you prefer Shimano over Red, then I suppose Campy is okay. For simplicity I would just put on the 10 speed stuff that fell into your hands. Unless you really like the new hoods that well.

New 7900 runs the cables under the tape, like Campy & SRAM.
If you haven't ridden Di2, then I'd say you should. Ride it with an open mind, it's pretty unbelievable, what can be done. It's a quantum leap (Scott Bakula!) in my humble opinion. You can change the way you shift. Under power? Sure. Standing? Yup. Climbing out of the saddle, and into the big ring? Yup.
Felt has a ton of models with Di2 for 2011, and I intend to get myself one.

I really do like the new hood a lot, but it's also partially because I don't really like the old hoods. We'll see, I'm waiting for pricing on Record from Campy...

moff_quigley · 11-04-2009, 06:19 PM

It's an Italian bike and it must have Campy. Put friggin' Veloce on it for all I care, but it needs to be Campagnolo.

Now the important question is...What kind of carbon wheels are you going to run?

ire · 11-04-2009, 06:44 PM

You should take the parts off, sell the frame, and buy the C50 CX

maddog17 · 11-04-2009, 07:12 PM

i never felt you needed to keep italian parts on an italian frame. you use what you like, at least thats what i do. if anything i'd spend the money on a new paint job. i liked those Saroni paint jobs, but it would look better with chromed lugs. the red and chrome together look awesome.

but getting back to the parts problem. if getting campy 11 speed wont cost you so much then it looks to be a no brainer.

**splat** · 11-04-2009, 08:03 PM

campy 11

Mr. Hankey · 11-04-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by James

New 7900 runs the cables under the tape, like Campy & SRAM.
If you haven't ridden Di2, then I'd say you should. Ride it with an open mind, it's pretty unbelievable, what can be done. It's a quantum leap (Scott Bakula!) in my humble opinion. You can change the way you shift. Under power? Sure. Standing? Yup. Climbing out of the saddle, and into the big ring? Yup.
Felt has a ton of models with Di2 for 2011, and I intend to get myself one.

I really do like the new hood a lot, but it's also partially because I don't really like the old hoods. We'll see, I'm waiting for pricing on Record from Campy...

I did not know that about 7900. Very good to know. Maybe I won't jump ship so soon after all. The one thing I don't like about SRAM is LA is a big shareholder, and I am not a big fan of him. I'd love to try the new wireless version of the Di2, but I would probably like it too much. If you sell the 7800 currently on the bike. I would be interested minus brifters, crankset, and brakes. That's assuming the 7900 shifter are compatible which I would hope they would be.

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Originally Posted by maddog17

but getting back to the parts problem. if getting campy 11 speed wont cost you so much then it looks to be a no brainer.

I gotta agree with this guy though.

-dustin · 11-04-2009, 09:04 PM

FTS. Di2 for that Colnago. Go big or go home. Isn't Shimano just down the road? Hell, buy that Di2 equipped Felt for super cheap, put the Di2 stuff on the Colnago, put the Campy onto the Felt and sell the Felt.

I want a Felt F-series frame.

James · 11-04-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Hankey

I did not know that about 7900. Very good to know. Maybe I won't jump ship so soon after all. The one thing I don't like about SRAM is LA is a big shareholder, and I am not a big fan of him. I'd love to try the new wireless version of the Di2, but I would probably like it too much. If you sell the 7800 currently on the bike. I would be interested minus brifters, crankset, and brakes. That's assuming the 7900 shifter are compatible which I would hope they would be.

I gotta agree with this guy though.

Yeah, it's a big change for Shimano. New Ultegra too. But if you run the new levers, you need to run the new brakes, and I think at least the front derailleur as they changed the ratio/size. Kind of lame, but they do that every few years, like when the OLD DA was incompatible with any other gruppo. Shimano has a chart on their site on compatibility.
I have some 7900 that's gonna go on a Felt F1 frame I got leftover from the Garmin team, just waiting for the bar/stem to come in.

The 7800 on this bike is actually going to be repurposed onto my new wet bike, I'm kind of loathe to part with any Dura Ace stuff as I'm too cheap to buy any new stuff...
I don't know when Di2 is going to go wireless, they have some real battery issues to worry about then, but at some point I'm sure. They'll probably work on battery size first. I think we'll see the pros getting a super-small "race" battery for weight savings, as they don't really need to go a month between charges.

I'm leaning towards 11spd...