Are we responcible for our own actions?

[fourgivn1]

Originally posted by SVEN



Come up for air? Sicko

Hey, I said "when SHE lets ME come up for air." I'll just be an innocent bystander.

[ibismojo]

eh...Toshi already stated the Heisenberg Theory. The more you know where you're going, the less you know where you are...and vice versa.

[gravity]

Originally posted by Toshi

Yes, I meant "let alone everything." So you really believe that we have a destiny that's unavoidable? I think that there truly exists a nondeterministic factor in the world -- there is something random and chaotic about it -- and that our destinies are not fixed in stone. Or in the cells we're made of, etc.

i don't think a person's fate is completely predetermined (some parts have to be to some extent, ie the family/culture/society you're born into, it's not your choice therefore it's classified as fate).

i believe in a soul, which therefore puts choice into everything. have you seen Minority Report? i follow somewhere along the lines of Agatha's quote: "once you know your future, you can change it."

the Christian bible (and many other religions' bibles i'm sure, but i haven't read them at all) lays out what happens when you do stuff, ie consequences of our actions. when you know of possible outcomes of your actions, you will take the course of action that gives you the best possible outcome, right? being sapient beings, we can work out this stuff without being told anyway, therefore we can predetermine what the likely outcome of any particular action will be, and therefore choose whether or not to proceed with that action. if you didn't know that there could be negative outcomes to a particular action, you would not hesitate to proceed with that action. we are given the ability to foresee the future through scientific deductions (well you know what i mean) and the ability to choose our fate IMO.

does that make sense?

[mrbigisbudgood]

just ride your damn bike

[Toshi]

Originally posted by mrbigisbudgood
just ride your damn bike

dang, my ignore list is getting long

[gravity]

Originally posted by Toshi

dang, my ignore list is getting long

how many peeps ya got on it now?

[Toshi]

Originally posted by gravity
how many peeps ya got on it now?

6. I had held back from having more than 3 since I didn't know that it expanded to give you more space when you added more. How many are on yours?

[gravity]

Originally posted by Toshi

6. I had held back from having more than 3 since I didn't know that it expanded to give you more space when you added more. How many are on yours?

i have no people on mine. even if i reckon someone's a tool, i still leave them unblocked because once out of a hundred posts, they might say something useful that i wanted to know. and i'd rather know what's going on all the time too...... am i a stickybeak?