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    Planned Parenthood teaches Girl Scouts to masturbate

    over the top?
    And they were disturbed to find out that the Girl Scout organization has been giving its endorsement for years to a Planned Parenthood sex-ed program in which girls and boys are given literature on homosexuality, masturbation and condoms.
    do these three topics go hand-in-hand?

    and i won't even touch this quote:
    "...has 2.9 million girl members and 986,000 adult members, takes no position on sex..."
    in context
    we are afraid to put men to live and trade each on his own private stock of reason, because we suspect that this stock in each man is small. - edmund burke

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    I'm sooo teenie weenie!!! Jr_Bullit's Avatar
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    Yay! Go girl scouts

    In my opinion (ahem...as a one-time Brownie), that's a good role for girl scouts to take....it's not teaching them TO Do those things but is answering questions that most young women have about those things at a time in their life when those questions are most prevalent.

    Looks like I need ta go buy myself a box or two of cookies this year

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    double entendre

    Originally posted by Jr_Bullit
    Looks like I need ta go buy myself a box
    sorry, i can't seem to get my mind right.

    "aunt flo" is in town this week.
    we are afraid to put men to live and trade each on his own private stock of reason, because we suspect that this stock in each man is small. - edmund burke

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    Just make sure they wash their hands before making those cookies.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood teaches Girl Scouts to masturbate

    Originally posted by $tinkle
    do these three topics go hand-in-hand?
    don't you mean hand in.....never mind
    Wow, I can’t believe you just took that seriously!

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    I'm fine with the scouts teaching it, but let's visit the subject of Sex Ed in general. VD / AIDS? Yes, teach it! Safe sex? Pregnancy... of course.

    But teaching homosexuality -- whatever it means to "teach" it -- has no place in any sex ed course. That's just wrong and what the heck does that mean (to teach it), anyway?

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    Wow! I get 100 characters to say whatever I wa

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    Even an article on being a hellbound sinner, I mean homosexuality is pretty much about teaching children to keep an open mind. You would think they were giving out illustrated fellatio how to's in the locker room, the way some people talk...

    Talking to Kids About Sexual Orientation
    By Susan Motamed

    Of Tinky Winky and Tutus
    Even though my two sons are still very young (one and two), questions about sexual orientation and gender roles seem to come up all the time.

    Take Teletubbies®, for example. Let's just say we didn't ban Tinky Winky at our house. My friend, however, exchanged the Tinky Winky her son received as a gift for a Dipsy doll, because she thought Dipsy was more masculine and more appropriate for a boy.

    Then my two-year-old son decided he wanted a tutu. So we bought him one.

    The tutu got everybody talking: my father was afraid he would be teased at school for having worn a tutu. Our upstairs neighbors were all for it. My friend was against the idea and didn't want her son to try it on.

    Now the tutu lives in the toy chest and is no more or less interesting to my kids than any of their other possessions. But the questions remain: Am I dealing with these issues in the right way? What, then, of my tutu- and Tinky-rejecting friend? As parents, we are immersed in these issues, and it can be hard to know what is the right thing to say and do.

    Ask the Expert
    I spoke with Michael McGee, vice president of education at Planned Parenthood Federation of America. The first thing I wanted to know was how soon parents should start discussing sexual identity with their children. His answer was, "Start right away."

    "Like most conversations about sexuality and relationships," he advised, "the best time will vary from family to family. But some messages parents could give to preschoolers are:

    We respect everybody — people who are the same and those who are different from us.
    It is hurtful to call people names.
    People express their affection for each other in many different ways."
    Teachable Moments
    From speaking with an expert, I realized that if I want my kids to feel natural about issues of sexuality and gender identity, I should address them naturally, as the opportunity presents itself. "As kids get older," McGee said, "lots of opportunities arise to share your values about sexual orientation and what you personally believe and what your faith preaches. These 'teachable moments' could arise because your child comes to you with questions, or because you see something on television or in the neighborhood.""
    My good friend's eight-year-old son recently came home in tears because some kids at school called him "fag" and "homo." My friend saw this name-calling as a "teachable moment," and seized the opportunity to point out that teasing is painful and wrong. She also took the time to calmly explain to her son that those words are derogatory terms for homosexuals — men and women who are attracted to people of their own gender. She explained that heterosexuals are sexually attracted to people of the other gender.

    Teach By Example
    According to Michael McGee, discussions about sexual orientation can just be part of the continuum of teaching children about roles in the family and roles in society. Ordinary childhood moments — like when your son says, "Yuck. Dolls are for girls." or, "What do you mean I had a tutu?" — provide opportunities to explore gender roles with your child. The point is to stress fairness and flexibility, e.g., if a boy wants to play with a doll, it doesn't make him any less a boy than if he plays with a truck.

    Living these values is as important as talking about them. "You want your children to see that you are respectful of differences and can appreciate the skills and abilities that a person has and choices that they make, regardless of their gender or their orientation. We all want to teach our children about valuing fairness and equity," says McGee.

    Universal Values
    "Some religions believe that same sex behaviors are immoral, and some parents may choose to pass that teaching on to their kids. If that is how you feel," McGee suggests, "I would urge you to also teach respect for different attitudes and beliefs, as long as they are based on ethics, responsibility, justice, equality, and nonviolence." The "golden rule" is a universal value.

    Many parents who condemn homosexuality believe in the universal values of respect and kindness. They should stress these values when talking to their children about sexual orientation. So, when we take the opportunity to teach our kids that it is not fair to treat somebody badly because of their skin color, or what country they are from, or if their religion is different from ours, we need to add, "It is wrong to treat people badly because they are gay."
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    A girl I know started at 10.
    This wasn't exactly a rock show. It was an act of sorcery.
    description of nick cave show

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    I have a difficult time attempting to argue either for or against this issue.

    It's the duality of man, we seek enlightenment while we seek carnel pleasure. Are the two issues really different?

    The dance required to balance the sublime and devine can kill...

    Cabernet Savignion only muddles the issue further.

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    Originally posted by ummbikes
    I have a difficult time attempting to argue either for or against this issue.

    It's the duality of man, we seek enlightenment while we seek carnel pleasure. Are the two issues really different?

    The dance required to balance the sublime and devine can kill...

    Cabernet Savignion only muddles the issue further.
    Amaretto did it for me.

    Way to go with the sensationalist headlines $tinkle. You after a career in journalism?
    Last edited by fluff; 03-04-2004 at 06:23 AM.

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    Originally posted by stevew
    A girl I know started at 10.
    If you're referring to...puberty? That's not such an unusual age these days . Average age is about 10 for girls, I know of some that are 7 or 8 that are "there". It's all those damn hormones and other things put in our foods these days .

    If you're referring to masturbating...well that's not that unusual an age for a kid to start trying to figure things out...better to learn that method than others .

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    Originally posted by Tenchiro
    Then my two-year-old son decided he wanted a tutu. So we bought him one.
    if this were my kid, i'd beat him w/ a sockful of nickels.

    Originally posted by Tenchiro
    Am I dealing with these issues in the right way? What, then, of my tutu- and Tinky-rejecting friend? As parents, we are immersed in these issues, and it can be hard to know what is the right thing to say and do.
    oh, the humanity!

    Originally posted by Tenchiro
    Ask the Expert
    I spoke with Michael McGee, vice president of education at Planned Parenthood Federation of America. The first thing I wanted to know was how soon parents should start discussing sexual identity with their children. His answer was, "Start right away."
    so that way, we can get this silly age of consent thing abolished. This is absolutely the wrong thing to do. Any act is simply an expression of what's in the mind & heart. I think it's irresponsible to start branding adult issues into kids' inner dwelling. I could barely handle the topic in my teens. Ok, 20's.

    Originally posted by Tenchiro
    We respect everybody — people who are the same and those who are different from us.
    It is hurtful to call people names.
    People express their affection for each other in many different ways.."
    that registered sex offender 2 floors up has feelings too.

    Originally posted by Tenchiro
    Teachable Moments
    From speaking with an expert, I realized that if I want my kids to feel natural about issues of sexuality and gender identity, I should address them naturally, as the opportunity presents itself. "As kids get older," McGee said, "lots of opportunities arise to share your values about sexual orientation and what you personally believe ...<snip>
    how can i - as a parent - see this as anything but indoctrination?

    Originally posted by Tenchiro
    Teach By Example
    the only thing i agree w/

    Originally posted by Tenchiro
    "Some religions believe that same sex behaviors are immoral
    "some"?

    Originally posted by Tenchiro
    The "golden rule" is a universal value.
    ...which comes from the new testament.

    Originally posted by Tenchiro
    So, when we take the opportunity to teach our kids that it is not fair to treat somebody badly because of their skin color, or what country they are from, or if their religion is different from ours, we need to add, "It is wrong to treat people badly because they are gay."
    even if he's your priest.
    we are afraid to put men to live and trade each on his own private stock of reason, because we suspect that this stock in each man is small. - edmund burke

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    Originally posted by $tinkle
    [B I think it's irresponsible to start branding adult issues into kids' inner dwelling. I
    how can i - as a parent - see this as anything but indoctrination?

    the only thing i agree w/

    [/B]
    Do you disagree with the principles or the subject matter?

    Do you feel that people without strong religious beliefs cannot have a strong moral code?

    You seem to imply that a parent telling their child their views is indoctrination. Will you not tell your children your views?

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