My next road bike??

[Cant Climb]

why am i the only one who doesn't think 850 is out of the question for that bike?

Oh......$850 is absolutely nuts for that bike.

Just looking at the picture posted.
The seatpost, rims, cranks, saddle, hubs, and probably the BB are very low end. None of those components cost Salsa more than $10some are less then $5 i bet......they are charging $850 for the simplicity fad and riding the crest of the SS trend IMO.

[Westy]

Oh......$850 is absolutely nuts for that bike.

Just looking at the picture posted.
The seatpost, rims, cranks, saddle, hubs, and probably the BB are very low end. None of those components cost Salsa more than $10some are less then $5 i bet......they are charging $850 for the simplicity fad and riding the crest of the SS trend IMO.

Read the spec list. I don't know what Salsa pays for things like the hubs and rims but they are not bottom of the barrel components. I haven't done the math but I don't think I could build up a bike like that for much less. I might be able to shop around for each component and find good prices but would lose my ass in shipping. My LBS hookup wouldn't want to cut a deal on a pile of pain in the ass to order parts but would probably on a complete bike.

[SuspectDevice]

Wow,
You guys are all a bunch of cheap bastards!
$850 is very, very cheap for a complete bicycle that is well made.
That frame, made from the same tubeset (a custom butted steel tubeset), castings, and painted in as many colors and made in the US by a skilled builder would need to be more than that just for the frame...

The casserole comes in eight sizes, likely necessitating at least 4 different downtubes and 3 different seat tubes, if not more.

The complete bike is made out of high quality aftermarket level parts.
It is a nice enough bike that somone who actually comes from cycling culture would consider buying one...

That SE by comparison comes in 6 sizes (all that can use the same tubes), and uses straight gauge tubing and bottom of the barrel OE parts. It has no provision for gears and has geometry that isn't good for anything except short urban rides.
It is a disposable toy designed to sell to college students, not a high quality bike for bike people....

[Westy]

I don't plan on getting a second road bike to be ridden to the local coffee shop while wearing a pair of manpris. This will be for my weekday 30-50 mile road rides and occasional dirt road haul. It should see a few thousand miles per year. I want a single speed to force my self to spin, I can already crank a big gear all day. It should also make the same old rides a little more interesting.

I'd just convert my current roadie to a SS but I want gears for my rides up into the mountains.

[Cant Climb]

I see Tektro, Kalloy, WTB, low-end Sugino on that spec list.......not sure about Surley hubs....that's alot of bottom of the barrel components...

But i am more convinced it is a pretty nice frame now after being educated....

Lord Opie's new Brookes saddle it worth more than my current road machine and i get around just fine.........thats my perspective....