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    Quote Originally Posted by eater View Post
    Originally Posted by toodles
    Ditched the gearbox and they're running a mech with an idler.


    they keep the gearbox on the 2013 frame?
    here, try this:

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    what is that?
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    116.5cm in sag 118cm
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    Quote Originally Posted by eater View Post
    Originally Posted by toodles
    Ditched the gearbox and they're running a mech with an idler.


    they keep the gearbox on the 2013 frame?
    Yes the gearbox was just an added benefit for running a high pivot and was used in place of the idler that Canfield bikes use. The frame was designed around the suspension system not the gearbox itself according to Rob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kntr View Post
    I want a little lower gearing too. I wanna be able to ride the Zerode up gravel roads when I have to.

    So 23T rear works, but you have to add a link?

    Any pics? What chain ring are you running on the rear? Pics to see the tension?

    I've got a ton of new stock carbon and plastic shock covers if anyone wants one.
    Hey Kntr, I just got it all set up with the 23T. Stock chain length is 94 links (47 outer), with a 21T, so the 48 links reported by NSM made sense. However, it didn't work for me. 48 outer links was WAY too long. The tensioner was totally touching the rear cog and there was still a ton of slack. Switched to 47 outer links and it worked perfectly. Even removed the shock coil and compressed it all the way to check, and it still had some range left in the tensioner.

    So that's what I'm running now. 23 tooth cog with a 47 outer link chain.
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    and now they go back to a mech kasette and idler no more gearbox?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EVRAC View Post
    Hey Kntr, I just got it all set up with the 23T. Stock chain length is 94 links (47 outer), with a 21T, so the 48 links reported by NSM made sense. However, it didn't work for me. 48 outer links was WAY too long. The tensioner was totally touching the rear cog and there was still a ton of slack. Switched to 47 outer links and it worked perfectly. Even removed the shock coil and compressed it all the way to check, and it still had some range left in the tensioner.

    So that's what I'm running now. 23 tooth cog with a 47 outer link chain.
    Was that just at static? Sorry, I may have counted poorly, it was in the back of my car. It is close, but only at static. No doubt if I count again it's only 47, sorry if my laziness(counting once)wasted your time.

    Quote Originally Posted by eater View Post
    and now they go back to a mech kasette and idler no more gearbox?
    They will always have a gearbox.

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    Sooo, the 3rd size will be a sensible large size then? Some of us are taller then a hobbit and I would love to give one a go.
    Following Danny at Whis is not the smartest of ideas, he goes fast and stuff. There was a kiwi dude on a black zerode there as well that was having a bit of fun leaving the gearbox out to see the weight difference and handling difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by eater View Post
    and now they go back to a mech kasette and idler no more gearbox?
    meinst du das jetzt ernst? arbeite mal daran einen witz zu erkennen...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sethimus View Post
    meinst du das jetzt ernst? arbeite mal daran einen witz zu erkennen...
    ueber solch sachen macht man keine witze..
    Last edited by eater; 12-02-2012 at 06:08 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EVRAC View Post
    Hey Kntr, I just got it all set up with the 23T. Stock chain length is 94 links (47 outer), with a 21T, so the 48 links reported by NSM made sense. However, it didn't work for me. 48 outer links was WAY too long. The tensioner was totally touching the rear cog and there was still a ton of slack. Switched to 47 outer links and it worked perfectly. Even removed the shock coil and compressed it all the way to check, and it still had some range left in the tensioner.

    So that's what I'm running now. 23 tooth cog with a 47 outer link chain.
    Where did you get a 23t? Did it lower the gearing enough to ride up gravel roads? Pic?

    What size and year Zerode?
    Last edited by Kntr; 12-02-2012 at 03:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kntr View Post
    Where did you get a 23t? Did it lower the gearing enough to ride up gravel roads? Pic?

    What size and year Zerode?
    The cog I made myself. Fun project. Figured out the tooth and spline profiles and modelled it in solidworks. Cut it on a waterjet. The spline area is triple-thick so it won't dig into the splines. The three layers are aligned with pins and then brazed with silver solder. I chamfered the teeth, sandblasted it, and then black powder-coat. Took maybe 5 hours total.

    Used it today on Cypress. Gearing seems perfect now. Didn't really do any climbing, but the few pedally sections seemed better.

    Pic attached.

    The Zerode is from the original white batch (2011?), and it's a M/L.
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    Here's a link to the one I used. I drilled a ton of speed holes in it as it was over built. Very nice though, and choice of colours. Not too heavy standard(un drilled), but ten minutes with a drill Knocks a load more weight out. And they have a decent wide footing on freehub, wide enough not to bight into ally freehubs.
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    http://rennendesigngroup.com/sscog.html
    Puts you in the more efficient gears for DH use. 23tooth is max though, don't go over this.
    Last edited by no skid marks; 12-02-2012 at 04:50 PM.

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    Rob said he runs a 35T on his AM version.
    Last edited by Kntr; 12-02-2012 at 04:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kntr View Post
    Rob said he runs a 35T on his AM version.
    35t what? Chain ring?
    Different length stays, output sprocket size, tensioner type and location. 24t fouls on tensioner, 25 might work due to chain length, but can't see why you'd want it.
    Last edited by no skid marks; 12-02-2012 at 06:09 PM.

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