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    Which X.0 or Descendent cranks for Socom (150mm)

    Who knows much about Socom cranks?

    I'm looking to upgrade the cranks on my Socom frame with the 150mm rear end, but I'm not sure which cranks will fit properly because of the 73mm bb shell. I have the older style LG1 wide chain guide and am running 9spd. I would like either X.0 or Descendent cranks with a 165mm arm length.

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    I'm not sure if Descendants are available in 73mm but I know XO DH are.

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    The Descendants are available for 73mm.
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    It really depends on what you want and how much you're willing to drop on a set of cranks.

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    Yep, slightly heavier but cheaper and dependable versus light but pricy and the potential to snap.

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    Why not saint 810? You can pick them up cheap now that the new stuff is out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelandjt View Post
    the potential to snap.
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    I would also consider Saints. Mostly I'm just not sure which size I need because my bike has a 73mm bb and a 150mm rear axle. The cranks on it now are Holzfeller OCT's with a 56mm chainline Howitzer bb.

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    Looks like a single ring M810 will get you a 50.4mm chainline.

    http://techdocs.shimano.com/media/te...9830721523.pdf

    Using a two piece crank like the 810 will provide less chainline adjustment than your current setup, from what I can tell.
    Last edited by toowacky; 12-08-2012 at 07:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Cliffy View Post
    you cant tell me that whatever it took to do that would leave an aluminium crank arm undamaged. whatever happened to snap that carbon crank arm would have broken or bent just about anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnooth View Post
    you cant tell me that whatever it took to do that would leave an aluminium crank arm undamaged. whatever happened to snap that carbon crank arm would have broken or bent just about anything.
    I'm yet to see a saint break like that. There are quite a lot of catastrophic failures on x.o's but I'm yet to see it on saint.
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    it may not "snap off" but an impact that would cause a carbon crank to snap would at least bend an aluminum crank.

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    Will this ( http://www.raceface.com/components/s...-to-73-68-kit/ ) let me use an 83mm X.0, Descendant or Saint crankset and still give me the right driveline spacing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnooth View Post
    you cant tell me that whatever it took to do that would leave an aluminium crank arm undamaged. whatever happened to snap that carbon crank arm would have broken or bent just about anything.
    Thanks for the e-speculative insight.

    That wasn't my pic, but there are 2 known failures of XO cranks like this that I'm personally aware of. The pic I posted I found on-line and had the description that it snapped in a g-out.

    Acadian doesn't log in here as much, but he'd tell you first hand how he snapped his pair of XO's in a g-out as well. (Exact same pedal failure like the pic I posted.)

    My friend Tyler snapped a pedal off XO's sliding out in a turn. Small crash. Saw it on video, and had to personally replace the crank with his friends Hive cranks so he could do a race the next day... It was fun clamping the remains of that aluminum pedal insert into a vice so he could have his Podium pedal back.

    Here's a challenge: Rep. to the person who can link a pic or post about Saint cranks failing under riding conditions. Notice I didn't say normal...
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    The internet sounds like a tough place to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnooth View Post
    you cant tell me that whatever it took to do that would leave an aluminium crank arm undamaged. whatever happened to snap that carbon crank arm would have broken or bent just about anything.
    The carbon is only 1 pixel thick!
    "A set of boxxers"....when one fork just won't do.

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    The only bent saint cranks I know of is from local dirt jumpers learning to do 360's of drops.
    Quote Originally Posted by ska todd View Post
    Bacon is a universal. Like duct tape, zip ties, or a bigger hammer it can fix anything!

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