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    Spring rate change by cutting springs??

    Does anyone here know how to calculate the change in spring rate that occurs when you chop a spring?

    The reason why I ask is that I have a pike 454 dual air U-turn that has felt horrible since day 1, and after dealing with it for 3 years, I want to go coil. I have a couple boxxer springs that I intend to cut down since I don't think RockShox makes a spring stiff enough for me. The red boxxer spring is 50 in/lbs, right? Could I get 70 in/lbs out of it? Do I need to injinere an air/coil combo to get close to that? I am 220lbs, and am looking for no more than 20% sag. And I want to spend less than $10 on this.

    Every helps would most be triumphantly appreciate

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    wow, i can't believe i gave a serious response to this kind of injinereing request. :facepalm:
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    holy damn. Get on pinkbike and offer ten bucks for a used but correct spring in the BUY/SELL area.

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    Nah, spring rates increase when you cut the spring. I don't know why this is, as I got a BA not a BS, but I do know it's true. I also DO intend to preload it like crazy, and I believe that RockShox never made a pike spring stiff enough. I had a coil pike before this, and I tried "the stiffest spring [RockShox] make" and never got the fork to have less than 40% sag. I do not care about damage to the inside of the fork, and I intend to run stainless washers top and bottom to keep the spring from pushing through the bottom of spring seat.

    If this fork last through the summer, I'll be ecstatic. All the ano is worn off the stanchions, the lowers have fat gouges and there is cracking around the maxle, and I have applied RTV to the MoCo cartridge to keep it from puking oil all over the bed of my truck when the bike is at an angle.

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    so you're after a darwin award?
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    I believe that although coiled, springs act like diving boards. Shorten them and it's like rolling the wheel up, they get springier.

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    set your sarcasm meter to Level 4:butt hurt

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBC View Post
    and I believe that RockShox never made a pike spring stiff enough.
    youd be wrong
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    i schralped bus stop with a rear flat faster than jonkranked does it on his pretty expresso

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    Quote Originally Posted by IH8Rice View Post
    youd be wrong
    whether or not something is true has no bearing on whether or not people believe it
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    Ok, well this isn't a trolling thread. I'm going to do this since I can't see putting money into a clapped out pike. You must be the 1%, so watch out or I'll occupy your ass.

    And I've called SRAM direct when I worked in shops and never got satisfaction for this issue. This is why I'm doing it on my own. Really, it's my fault for posting on a US forum and not a Kiwi forum where people believe in using creativity instead of cash to better their riding experience.

    H8rs

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    there's a fine line between "clapped out" and broken.

    If you've got cracks around the maxle as you've indicated, then your fork has clearly crossed the line into "broken" territory. Use at your own peril.
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    pic unrelated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonKranked View Post
    pic unrelated.


    Look at the poll, it is related.

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    halp! i've been sucked into the PBV!! halp!
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