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Intense M9275
So Intense hops on the ''in between wheelsize'' bandwagon

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ooh, inb4 the haters!
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Monkey
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Intense 2951
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would love to try all those bikes!
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Is it a one off frame or different dropouts like some companies are doing?
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Turbo Monkey
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That looks like an XC casing, kevlar bead, 2.35" Nevegal. I'm currently running the same tire on the front of my 650 trail bike. It wouldn't be a suitable DH tire. 650 caught on quickly with rim makers but we'll have to wait a year or two for 2.4"+ and tougher casing tires.
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Would have to be different frames, otherwise you'd have excessively long chainstays and a fairly high BB, amongst other complications.
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The replacement 650b dropouts would move the axle up enough to keep the BB the same and back just far enough for tire clearance. Yes, the chainstay will grow but very little to accommodate the current tires.
I think the 650b dropouts are available for the Carbine.
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So they're just dropouts?
Most frames these days seem to be built on the edge of the tire hitting something at bottom out, and also fairly close to the chainstay yoke.
You'd need (27.5-26 / 2) = 0.75" more space, so the chainstay would have to be that much longer - which is a huge increase - unless you want to sacrifice mud clearance, lame in itself.
If that's what they are doing, then count one more aboard the hater bandwagon.
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 Originally Posted by Udi
0.75" more - which is a huge increase
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 Originally Posted by Udi
So they're just dropouts?
Most frames these days seem to be built on the edge of the tire hitting something at bottom out, and also fairly close to the chainstay yoke.
You'd need (27.5-26 / 2) = 0.75" more space, so the chainstay would have to be that much longer - which is a huge increase - unless you want to sacrifice mud clearance, lame in itself.
If that's what they are doing, then count one more aboard the hater bandwagon.
The difference isn't really that big. 26" tires, especially big DH ones, are substantially bigger than 26". 27.5" for 650b is a closer to accurate number.
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Turbo Monkey
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And remember these bikes are currently rolling on max 2.35" Nevegals. Compared to a 26" 2.7" Minion it's narrower and not much taller. When DH 650b tires are available sub 17" chainstays won't be possible and frames will have to provide suspension clearance. That's why I like 26" rear, 27.5" front.
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My bike should clear a pretty big 650b tire already. I'm going to give them a try when the 2.4 HR2 drops.
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 Originally Posted by Lelandjt
And remember these bikes are currently rolling on max 2.35" Nevegals. Compared to a 26" 2.7" Minion it's narrower and not much taller. When DH 650b tires are available sub 17" chainstays won't be possible and frames will have to provide suspension clearance. That's why I like 26" rear, 27.5" front.
So WTF is the point of it then? Same OD, but requires new rims, new tires, new spokes, and new frame geo.
I will preface this by saying I'm drunk.
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 Originally Posted by Hacktastic
So WTF is the point of it then? Same OD, but requires new rims, new tires, new spokes, and new frame geo.
Until there are real 650b DH tires there isn't much of one. But my DH bike could use another half inch of bottom bracket height so once that happens I think it'll be worth a shot
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