Evil Undead

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Originally Posted by Udi

Now that you're both here, I couldn't resist. :D

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I love this, thanks udi for reading my mind. I bought my 2010 boxer largely based on the whinging of those two and had nothing but problems...so much so that rs recalled the entire fork to replace it. You don't replace an entire product because of rider error or because you added too little oil from the factory. That thread made me so angry as this is supposed to be a rider community, not the douchebag club telling you everything is perfect and it can't possibly be their sponsors products fault....and then, even now, they cannot accept that they were wrong and that there were legitimate problems with the fork. I just have no respect for people like that.

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Originally Posted by Sandwich

I love this, thanks udi for reading my mind. I bought my 2010 boxer largely based on the whinging of those two and had nothing but problems...so much so that rs recalled the entire fork to replace it. You don't replace an entire product because of rider error or because you added too little oil from the factory. That thread made me so angry as this is supposed to be a rider community, not the douchebag club telling you everything is perfect and it can't possibly be their sponsors products fault....and then, even now, they cannot accept that they were wrong and that there were legitimate problems with the fork. I just have no respect for people like that.

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Not sure where you get the 'even now' part since this has always been a thread about a prototype bike frame. But in case you missed it 3 years ago, I fully admitted to having my foot in my mouth at the time. A large batch of forks came with no lube and were easily fixed (at least among the 8-10 people I knew who had them), there was apparently another batch that was straight f*cked and felt the same as the decent ones. I was going on the experience of fixing dozens of forks for people over the years just by properly lubricating them, and the experiences of other forum members who were able to fix their '10's with a few tbsp of red rum. There was another run with a different problem, not exactly worth dwelling on for 3 years. Mea Culpa.

I think I even shared that I went through 3 forks myself that year and one of them came so absolutely messed up mechanically from the factory I had to overnight mail it back to Boobar directly (and I was a paying customer just like everyone else).

Aside from a public flogging I'd say that amounted to admitting wrong. That was 3 years ago, I've moved on.

However, that production run aside, I'll stand by the claim that 90% of the problems people complain about with their Boxxer (from 98-2012) can be avoided with extremely simple maintenance. It's never been a very good set-it-and-forget-it fork, and that's a significant issue for anyone who doesn't feel compelled or confident in taking care of it. Hands down I think that's the biggest negative going for it, but might as well call it is instead of inventing some other problem.

PS, Dave, your recent posts make you sound like a twat.

cool story bro

I am sorry for all the tears I caused the internet today.

UDI hopefully my description on the last page helped before this thread went back to ****.

LOL...

Sweet Baby Jesus.

I leave you people alone for a week, ONE #^&$%#$ week and LOOK at the mess you made in here!

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Everyone from Page 46 forward, GO to your ROOM.

ALL of you.

Udi - you're OK. You can go back outside. :)

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Originally Posted by S.K.C.

I leave you people alone for a week.......

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oh come on...it wasn't that bad....no one is really bent out of shape, and everyone kissed and made up, the dust settled and we're back on track...people will be speculating again in no time

I heard it was flexy.

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/The...e3_3138774.jpg

eh, sorry about that. back to carbonez

I was thinking possibly that or just simple wheel changes with the rotor scrapping the inside of the carbon stay. As ham-fisted as some 'mechanics' are, I could see someone jamming the hell out of their chain stay with their rotor while they're trying to jimmy the back wheel in after a flat.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...87829250_o.jpg

All bitching, dick-swinging, and speculation aside, that is a good looking bicycle.

http://ep1.pinkbike.org/p4pb1115519/p4pb1115519.jpg

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Originally Posted by demo 9

http://ep1.pinkbike.org/p4pb1115519/p4pb1115519.jpg

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Is that the 29er prototype?

Hope the Undead gets the success it deserves. I was pretty happy with my Revolt apart from the minor frame quality issues. If there aren't any problems with the frame I'll prolly get myself one of these aswell :)

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Originally Posted by Victor

Hope the Undead gets the success it deserves. I was pretty happy with my Revolt apart from the minor frame quality issues. If there aren't any problems with the frame I'll prolly get myself one of these aswell :)

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Yeah, let's not kid ourselves - if the frame turns out to be durable, this will end up being a pretty iconic comeback. The Revolts were an amazing frame to ride, if the Undead solves the reliability (and to a far lesser extent the weight) issues, Evil will be hitting the rev limiter again soon enough. I really hope this is what happens!