Crampon Ultimates!!!

[supramk388]

Did you used to own Canfield?

No, I wish I owned Canfield Brothers. I think Chris and Lance are two of nicest guys you can meet or ride with as well. One other cool thing about CB's is that two amazing riders own the company, rider owned!

My problem with these pedals is their origin. Straitlines, 26s and Point1s are North American made, so I can see the cost reasons. Where are these from?

So you only buy stuff made in America I get that, what kind of car do you drive? Have you ever used Maxxis tires?

Very pretty though, just can't quite come to terms with the pricing.

R&D, tooling costs, smaller production runs. Those are all factors, have you ever produced parts for production?

I am sure we would all like to see pedals for 49.99 but this is a business not a non-profit organization.

[norbar]

I am sure we would all like to see pedals for 49.99 but someboby still has to pay the bills.

Ht pedals can be easily had for 50$ if you think about the an01ss. Of course they are 440g but they grip awesome and are super durable. Though yeah canfield produces theirs in smaller volumes so the price has to be higher. At the other hand the correlation goes both ways I'm quite sure the first company that makes a good looking (tech wise, don't mean only colors) for <100$ can make some serious cash.

[dropmachine.com]

Exactly. I don't care where stuff comes from. I buy what works. But I do expect that if production costs are lower, that those savings should be passed on to the customer. Canfield used to be EXCELLENT with their pricing. The Jedi was far more affordable (lol affordable) than other competing frames. Now, now so much.

Seems that as the name grows, so does the pricing.

[flymybike]

DM - which is it? You said that "My problem with these pedals is their origin" and now you say the opposite "Exactly. I don't care where stuff comes from". Fact is we are not a manufacturer. We don't have a factory to make all this happen so we rely on some great partners that can produce a great product. Taiwan has the factory's that build bike parts. We hope that the scene in Portland will grow in the coming years and we will have some other choices. Building in the US is what we want to be doing but as a small company, we can't build a production facility for the products we do.

You say we used to be excellent with our pricing, our frame prices have stayed very steady within a few hundred dollars, right in the middle of the market prices. We lower our Crampon price $30 with this Ultimate coming out. I feel it's a fair price for all the advantages you get. In the end, you get a great product from us or your money back.

There are lots of great options and you can buy based on what your feel is the most important, for us it's performance. Stepping it up since 1999!

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[davec113]

They look more like the pic below, if they are shared production with Spank, they are a great pedal. I've had the Spanks for a while and they have held up great, and are an improvement over the Kona Wah Wah's which IMO is high praise. The Spanks weigh 400g and cost $100, so since the Canfields are lighter I think the $150 price is justified and I'll buy a pair and put 'em on my trailbike, the Spanks can go on the DH rig... now I just wish I had an extra $150, lol....

edit: notice the bulge in the pedal body over the inside of the spindle to hold the oversized bearing used to compensate for the smaller axle....

[supramk388]

Exactly. I don't care where stuff comes from. I buy what works. But I do expect that if production costs are lower, that those savings should be passed on to the customer. Canfield used to be EXCELLENT with their pricing. The Jedi was far more affordable (lol affordable) than other competing frames. Now, now so much.

Seems that as the name grows, so does the pricing.

Have you seen the new Jedi? Its not the same bike so costs might changed.

If you would like a 2012 Jedi I am sure I can be you a good deal when you are ready. Just send me a PM.

[Da Peach]

They look more like the pic below, if they are shared production with Spank, they are a great pedal. I've had the Spanks for a while and they have held up great, and are an improvement over the Kona Wah Wah's which IMO is high praise. The Spanks weigh 400g and cost $100, so since the Canfields are lighter I think the $150 price is justified and I'll buy a pair and put 'em on my trailbike, the Spanks can go on the DH rig... now I just wish I had an extra $150, lol....

edit: notice the bulge in the pedal body over the inside of the spindle to hold the oversized bearing used to compensate for the smaller axle....

Beware the bushings...

Also, I needed to hack the end off an allen key to get to the cage off the spindle... Note the limited space between the allen head and the outside of the cage.

THAT. IS. ANNOYING.

I really love the feel of them though. I'm riding with my old $40 brick-style pedals on my trail bike (due to the Spike bushing death) and its surprising to me how much I feel the difference with a thin pedal. My seat is noticeable higher (due to thicker pedals), and I smacked my pedals a fair amount too.

[dropmachine.com]

You missed my point. I'm saying I don't care where stuff comes from in the sense that I'd never ignore something based on county of origin. I don't care where it comes from, long as it works. But I do expect something made overseas to have a lower price tag, you see?

And no, you pricing isn't good compared to what it used to be. The Jedi used to be a steal, and was priced much more favourably than other companies. Now it costs more than some North American made bikes, and I can't figure out why. I know the bike has gone though a lot of changes, but the point remains that its asian made and more expensive. Wheels and stems are about what i'd expect though.

You are definitely not the only ones doing this though. Seems to be a sad trend in the industry.

[freeridefool]

Im sure the ultimates are an improvement over the og crampons. But I far prefer the look of the og crampons. Mine have been rock solid. Other than a really bent spindle on a horrible crash they have been bomb proof.

[demo 9]

I STILL own a set of the prototype Crampons, minus a few pins, they are still just as good as the day i got them. I am not sure when the protos came out, but these take a beating, since then, its been the ONLY pedal i use for any kind of offroad bike riding. (still use balds on the street bike) You dont have to buy them, but its your loss, they are seriously good products. You can save money elsewhere, but why would you?

[canadmos]

I think the price thing is a little blown out of a proportion. It might be a little bit cheaper to have stuff made in Asia, but then you have to add in the massive cost of shipping, taxes and brokerage fees, increasing wages of Asian labourers and quite often a middle man (distributer). Then add on the cost of the store itself wanting some profit.

If something is made locally, a lot of those costs can be avoided or at least be much smaller.

But I would agree that prices these days seem to be quite out of hand on many items. How about $150-180 for a plastic chain guide? $60 for a bleed kit? Or how about certain frames not coming with a headset anymore etc etc. Just today I went into the local bike shop to pick up a set of seals for my Fox 36. I tried to get the old ones, but ended up having to buy the new SKF seals for $48.99 + tax ($55.36 total on the bill).

With that said, I'd try these pedals if I had the cash. They look pretty good.

[blackohio]

And no, you pricing isn't good compared to what it used to be. The Jedi used to be a steal, and was priced much more favourably than other companies. Now it costs more than some North American made bikes, and I can't figure out why. I know the bike has gone though a lot of changes, but the point remains that its asian made and more expensive. Wheels and stems are about what i'd expect though.

You are definitely not the only ones doing this though. Seems to be a sad trend in the industry.

There are sooo many factors involved. cost of materials, complexity of machining, forged parts etc. that all influence the price increase, smaller production numbers etc.

[bizutch]

Maybe a shop here in the south can come up with a US production pedal. They seem to produce some pretty stout stuff currently. I9 hubs and spokes, Thomson stems/posts and Cane Creek 110 headsets are US made. It just takes a guy with a few hundred thousand extra to throw down on some good hi tech equipment and all of a sudden, you get an awesome product that's US made.

But yeah, it's gonna cost American money to produce.

[supramk388]

Well thank you Sean (and CB's) for a super fast shipment. These showed up last night so finally got them mounted up

From this morn.




First thing you will notice is these are little thinner now. Wow is all I can say. In the past I have heard people comment on the occasional squeak but that is a non-issue now. Also some have stated as well about small bumps on the ends of the pedals but that is gone as well.

I will get in some real DH action this afternoon but so far seems like an awesome pedal just got even better.

Only thing I might change is 1MM loner black pins but other than that life is good.

[canadmos]

Those pins are savage looking haha

More pics of the bike??