Anyone using 9-speed Sram shifter with Shimano 10-speed derailleur?

[Verskis]

I have read from different sources that the Sram 9-speed cable pull is similar to Shimano 10-speed cable pull. Is this really true?
Anybody here using 9-speed Sram shifter with 10-speed Shimano derailleur on 9-speed cassette? If you are, please tell me your experiences.
I would be really keen to use my X7 shifter with a Zee derailleur on 9-speed cassette, but I'd like to hear more about this before buying the derailleur.

[kickstand]

my buddy is setting his bike up exactly like you are talking about.

He said there is a fair amount of information out there on the subject.

I will link him to this thread and see if he chimes in.

[Verskis]

I will link him to this thread and see if he chimes in.

Thanks!


There are some conflicting information floating around, seems like some people are using the derailleur in standard configuration, while some others are adding spacers to the cable clamping part to increase the lever length a bit.

[Sandwich]

problem solvers needs to release a roller wheel inline adapter to reduce lever throw to do just this with no questions. They already have all the gear, they just need to find the right ratios to do it.

I want a clutch derailleur so bad, but I just can't bring myself to make my chain even thinner.

[cjcrashesalot]

I mated a 9sp X.9 shifter to a Zee derailleur on my TR450 and it seems to line up well. The shifting has never been perfect on that bike though, I think the small cassette I run doesn't allow the derailleur upper pulley to be close enough to the cogs in many of the gears even with the B screw backed out.

That being said, the Zee shifts better than the X.7 I took off, and there are none of the symptoms of incompatible pull ratios (derailleur/cassette alignment getting worse as you shift through the gears, etc.)

[no skid marks]

I mated a 9sp X.9 shifter to a Zee derailleur on my TR450 and it seems to line up well. The shifting has never been perfect on that bike though, I think the small cassette I run doesn't allow the derailleur upper pulley to be close enough to the cogs in many of the gears even with the B screw backed out.

That being said, the Zee shifts better than the X.7 I took off, and there are none of the symptoms of incompatible pull ratios (derailleur/cassette alignment getting worse as you shift through the gears, etc.)

So with a wider ratio cassette you think it'd work fine?
Are there any ten speed cassettes that can pull apart that have a bigger then 34 tooth sprocket that you could build into a 9 speed cassette with 9 speed spacers.

[cjcrashesalot]

So with a wider ratio cassette you think it'd work fine?
Are there any ten speed cassettes that can pull apart that have a bigger then 34 tooth sprocket that you could build into a 9 speed cassette with 9 speed spacers.

It still works fine, there is just a bit of a delay in shifting that I attribute to the large gap between the upper pulley and the cassette that is unavoidable with my current setup. No doubt the shifting would be better with a wider range (11-21 currently), but I don't think that's an issue related to the 10/9sp conversion.

No idea on the cassette, but why would you want to turn a 10sp cassette into a 9sp?

[Verskis]

Are there any ten speed cassettes that can pull apart that have a bigger then 34 tooth sprocket that you could build into a 9 speed cassette with 9 speed spacers.

If you are after a 9-speed cassette with a 36t cog, Shimano makes one. It is a Deore level cassette, 12-36. You could replace the smallest 12t cog with a 11t if the high gear was not high enough.
That's the cassette I would run on my trail bike with the X7/Zee setup.

[Verskis]

I mated a 9sp X.9 shifter to a Zee derailleur on my TR450 and it seems to line up well. The shifting has never been perfect on that bike though, I think the small cassette I run doesn't allow the derailleur upper pulley to be close enough to the cogs in many of the gears even with the B screw backed out.

That being said, the Zee shifts better than the X.7 I took off, and there are none of the symptoms of incompatible pull ratios (derailleur/cassette alignment getting worse as you shift through the gears, etc.)

Nice to hear that. Are you using a stock derailleur, no spacers under the cable clamp etc. ?

[cjcrashesalot]

Nice to hear that. Are you using a stock derailleur, no spacers under the cable clamp etc. ?

Yep, totally stock derailleur. That being said, I set it up a while ago but haven't really gotten a chance to ride it. It may be improved with a spacer, but I don't have enough time on the setup to tell. My impressions are just from the bike stand so far.

[no skid marks]

No idea on the cassette, but why would you want to turn a 10sp cassette into a 9sp?

I wouldn't. I'd just want the three lowest gears to add to a 9 speed block(yes 9 speed spacers) so I had the gearing range of ten speed, with the clutch derailleur, and the reliability of 9 speed, and one less shift. I'd ratehr 8 speed, but the jumps between gears are even greater so shifting performance would diminish, and cable pull would be off.

If you are after a 9-speed cassette with a 36t cog, Shimano makes one. It is a Deore level cassette, 12-36. You could replace the smallest 12t cog with a 11t if the high gear was not high enough.
That's the cassette I would run on my trail bike with the X7/Zee setup.

That sounds easier. and would be low enough geared for me with a 34-6 up front. I'd only do it on a hardtail if at all.

[iRider]

Just FYI: the Deore cassette is super heavy.

FRM makes a 36t replacement cog to convert a 9sp cassette:

http://forums.mtbr.com/weight-weenie...te-591441.html

BTW: I have read a couple of times that people use X.9-Zee clutch derailleur combos successfully.

[Lelandjt]

Can someone link to other discussions about this? I love my old version Sram 9spd shifters with the indicator wrapping around the bars. I'd like to match them with a clutch derailleur but won't tolerate any shifting weirdness if the cable pull isn't perfect so I'd like to read up on the spacers and stuff.

[300hp]

http://www.pinkbike.com/u/jwick/albu...ecttolastphoto

Be sure to give him props for figuring it out, saves us alot of hassle.

I'll be doing this in the near future.

[kickstand]

Thanks!


There are some conflicting information floating around, seems like some people are using the derailleur in standard configuration, while some others are adding spacers to the cable clamping part to increase the lever length a bit.

From what he told me he was planning to go with the spacer on the cable clamps due to better shifting and staying adjusted better.....