View Full Version : is spanking yr kid acceptable?
narlus
09-15-2004, 10:04 AM
read an article (http://www.boston.com/news/globe/health_science/articles/2004/09/14/though_widely_used_corporal_punishment_is_an_unpro ven_treatment_for_misbehavior/) on this yesterday, and saw an interesting stat.
"in '79, sweden made it illegal to discipline kids via physical contact. According to the British Medical Journal, a 1979 Swedish ban on spanking coincided with a dramatic decline in acceptance of spanking among parents, from 53 percent to 11 percent. From 1979 to 1996, the country recorded only a single death from parent-child abuse."
discuss.
BurlyShirley
09-15-2004, 10:19 AM
beat them. lack of parent-sternness is the reason kids are maniacs these days anyway.
LordOpie
09-15-2004, 10:27 AM
I could never spank my future children. After all the women I've spanked, it's just too sexual for me now.
I Are Baboon
09-15-2004, 10:49 AM
I don't know how I feel. My mom used to hit me and it did little to curb my childhood behavior. Punishment never crossed my mind when I was getting into trouble.
FYI: Moms don't like it when they break a wooden spoon over your ass and you laugh at them for it. :D
llkoolkeg
09-15-2004, 10:50 AM
I could never spank my future children. After all the women I've spanked, it's just too sexual for me now.
Niiiiiice. I have done so, myself, but only because it was requested. It still does nothing for me(the giving or the receiving). Maybe it's because my parents whipped my ass regularly coming up with belts, branches, wooden paddleball paddles, ping pong paddles(one of which broke in half during a beating), wooden spoons, metal rulers, etc. I just can't associate spanking with anything pleasurable.
I'm with you, though. I could never raise my hand to my girls. My voice, however, is a different issue. My wife and I run a tight ship, but you don't need to hit someone to discipline them. Just ask any drill sargeant in today's modern military. I agree that the average parent is far too permissive these days, but that does not mean the easy solution to misbehavior is the correct one.
valve bouncer
09-15-2004, 10:51 AM
I give my two little blokes a slap from time to time but I generally try to avoid it. There are better ways but a smack is so immediate it's hard to avoid it at times.
Slugman
09-15-2004, 10:55 AM
FYI: Moms don't like it when they break a wooden spoon over your ass and you laugh at them for it. :D
You had it easy... my mom would b*tch slap ya. backhand to the face before you knew it was coming. Didn't stop me either... just made me better at getting away with it.
Then when I was 16 I was able to blocked her hand... got the "wait 'till your father gets home" speach. My father laughed when he heard about it, since I was close to 6' tall and playing both hockey and lacross, and my mother is like 5'4".
BurlyShirley
09-15-2004, 10:56 AM
My parents beat my with tire irons and a baseball bat covered with broken glass shards. Now Im perfectly behaved.
llkoolkeg
09-15-2004, 11:14 AM
My parents beat my with tire irons and a baseball bat covered with broken glass shards. Now Im perfectly behaved.
Burly, you've been watching too many Van Damme movies. :)
Tenchiro
09-15-2004, 11:23 AM
WHy spank them, mental torture is far more effective. :devil:
narlus
09-15-2004, 11:25 AM
beat them. lack of parent-sternness is the reason kids are maniacs these days anyway.
so there are no ways of being stern w/o hitting?
jdcamb
09-15-2004, 11:47 AM
so there are no ways of being stern w/o hitting?
Yes.... Lock them in the closet for a couple of days..... After a couple of hours douse them with water and slam the door shut. They will soon repent. Beatings are more for you then them......
Archslater
09-15-2004, 12:01 PM
I was occasionally spanked and smacked a few times as a child for punishment and I'm pretty well adjusted. I just think there are other, better options. I'm not sure what hitting teaches kids about violence and conflict resolution.
Westy
09-15-2004, 12:07 PM
There are better option to spanking. Pepper Spray and Stun Guns are quite effective.
Skookum
09-15-2004, 12:13 PM
i have no kids so can't really say. But i got the belt and slapped, but never beat on, didn't happen that often only during times like when i threw rocks and fruit out in traffic, or the time i decided to try to burn the house down being a stupid kid. haha or then there was that time i whipped my little cousin silly with a plastic hot wheel track, man i got slapped around for that one haha.
Ahhh that's funny crap. Thinking about it i don't know if i could remember those things unless i had the trauma of getting slapped or whipped. And if i couldn't remember them then i have nothing to draw back on when i make future decisions in life perhaps......
i don't and won't have kids so I can't say but, I was spanked at home AND at school often. on my bare ass at home but not at school.
and just look how I turned out. :D
narlus
09-15-2004, 12:20 PM
and just look how I turned out. :D
afraid to have kids? :sneaky:
RhinofromWA
09-15-2004, 12:44 PM
I was spank like once when I was little...it worked on me. :) My brother on the other hand was pretty dense........lol Never did work for him.
I was picked up by my hair off a couch once, but I called my dad an asshole, so it was warranted. :) I was like 6 or something. Didn't to it again.
Never got beaten really, didn't do much to warrant that. My brother was a test in not doing something to send yourself to prison over beating a child. :eek: Oh the years my parents lost off their life because of my little bro.
I think a blanket statement of no physical correction to especially little ones is wrong but I think many parents don't have the control to wield the power. I don't know if I do.....but I know others at their wits end explode. I have seen it. I think beating on a 13yo is pointless. 2yo that might need a physical reminder to connect to the incident (like Skookum :D) might be warranted. :)
narlus
09-15-2004, 12:49 PM
so at what age does it not make sense? why not just beat yr wife while you are it?
I could never spank my future children. After all the women I've spanked, it's just too sexual for me now.
This was funny when you first used it a couple weeks ago...
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95077&page=2&pp=15&highlight=hot+sauce
narlus
09-15-2004, 01:16 PM
heh, didn't see the hot sauce thread the 1st time around.
what bunk:
"I prefer my child receive a small amount of pain from my hand of love than to encounter a lot more pain in life"
so at what age does it not make sense? why not just beat yr wife while you are it?
wife beating sounds good to me....
how can you reason w/ a small child? sometimes the only thing that works is violence. steal a cookie, get smacked. it teaches the child to learn how to steal and not get caught. we need more people like this, as they are the future leaders and CEO's of our country.
LordOpie
09-15-2004, 01:46 PM
what do you say to a woman with two black eyes?
Nothing. You already told her twice.
I Are Baboon
09-15-2004, 01:49 PM
what do you say to a woman with two black eyes?
Nothing. You already told her twice.
LOL!
Shame on me for laughing at that.
LordOpie
09-15-2004, 01:56 PM
LOL!
Shame on me for laughing at that.
doesn't your wife post here sometimes? You're sleeping on the couch!
what do you say to a woman with two black eyes?
Nothing. You already told her twice.
Along that same vein...
Husband: How would you not like to see me for a few days?
Wife: That's fine with me a-hole!
On the third day the swelling had gone down enough the wife could see a little...
Then again; Don't argue with your wife.... Dicker!
RhinofromWA
09-15-2004, 02:32 PM
so at what age does it not make sense? I don't know...make a mandatory age cut off of 4? :rolleyes: :D
why not just beat yr wife while you are it?My fiance could kick my arse....she fights dirty. ;)
RhinofromWA
09-15-2004, 02:32 PM
LOL!
Shame on me for laughing at that.You weren't alone. :o: :)
Dartman
09-15-2004, 03:11 PM
I've used a corrective swat to the diaper with my kid. It's more of a shock than it causes any pain. Once a kid is a toddler and out of diapers you can use more effective means like 'time-out'. My kid hated that and would rather take the spanking. Children need to know there are consequences for their actions. It actually makes them feel more secure knowing there are limits, but it's still their job to test these limits.
Now I'm not talking about a beating here. I've never used anything other than my open hand with the padding of a diaper. No belts or switches.
This balanced with positive reinforcment when they do well make for a easier job of parenting. But every child is different and you'll need to decide what works best.
Mike
ALEXIS_DH
09-15-2004, 04:15 PM
i dont think spanking has to do with a thoughful behavior moddifying technique like most people paint it.
imho, its more like the mom or dad is very pissed off, and its a very temperamental person, who seeing what the kid did, does not stops and thinks "yeah ill spank my kid, so ill enforce a painful conditioning for this behavior, so he will never do it again" but he just goes berserk and beats the crap out of the kid, kinda like mortal kombat.
am no parent though, and i was never spanked.
but i have a niece, and little children look so wonderful, pretty and vulnerable i dont see myself seriously beating up a child. would be like beating up a puppy with a club.
i dont think spanking has to do with a thoughful behavior moddifying technique like most people paint it.
imho, its more like the mom or dad is very pissed off, and its a very temperamental person........
my parents didn't beat me but I did get spanked on a very regular basis. at home AND at school. is it any wonder why I hate religion? :D
LordOpie
09-15-2004, 04:40 PM
sPaNk da :monkey:
ALEXIS_DH
09-15-2004, 04:52 PM
my parents didn't beat me but I did get spanked on a very regular basis. at home AND at school. is it any wonder why I hate religion? :D
yeah, in shool they didnt spank anyone.
but we had a gym teahcer that if you pissed him off, he would make you crawl the entire soccer field, or lay down and lift you feet together off the ground for like 10 minutes. or grab a basketball in each hand and straighten your arms in front of you for 15 minutes without moving them.
it doesnt sound bad, but its truly worse than get a ruler in the hands or a slap in the face.
i´d probably do that with my kids if i ever feel so enraged to like beat them up. and laugh loud at it as well.
narlus
09-15-2004, 11:45 PM
ok...for those of you who are OK w/ spanking, i've got another question. is it OK for a teacher @ school to spank them?
I was spanked at school. if I had kids I sure as hell wouldn't let the teachers/princepal spank them though.
LordOpie
09-16-2004, 09:48 AM
:stupid:
I once punched a teacher in stomach for pulling my hair. How I got in trouble for that is beyond me.
pixelninja
09-16-2004, 10:08 AM
i dont think spanking has to do with a thoughful behavior moddifying technique like most people paint it.
imho, its more like the mom or dad is very pissed off, and its a very temperamental person, who seeing what the kid did, does not stops and thinks "yeah ill spank my kid, so ill enforce a painful conditioning for this behavior, so he will never do it again" but he just goes berserk and beats the crap out of the kid, kinda like mortal kombat.I was spanked, but nothing like what you envision. If I did something they thought was bad enough to deserve a spanking, I'd be sent to my room or to a chair in the living room to wait for them. They'd come in and make me bend over their knee. If I refused they simply waited. When I finally gave in, it was always one really good smack that hurt like hell, but it was always on the butt. Afterwards, they'd tell me they loved me and explained why they did what they did. They always made sure that I knew that they spanked me not because they hated me, but because I had done something wrong. They NEVER hit me in public and they never hit me out of frustration or anger.
If done correctly, I have no problem with spanking. Its the idiots that you describe who do it out of anger who do it all wrong.
I love my parents dearly and I think they did an awesome job of raising me and my 3 siblings...spankings and all.
I have no idea what I'm going to do with my daughter when she gets older.
LordOpie
09-16-2004, 10:43 AM
Lords of Acid
When I was a kid
I was a lazy child
Always skipping school
I was really wild
My poor old dad
He went insane
Cause I’m his little bitch
And in love with pain
So my daddy he spanked my butt
He turned me into his super spanky slut
I begged him for his mercy with tears in my eyes
He didn’t know that he just showed me paradise
Spank my booty
Come on and spank my booty
Spank my booty
Spank my booty real good
(x2)
ALEXIS_DH
09-16-2004, 11:25 AM
Lords of Acid
When I was a kid
I was a lazy child
Always skipping school
I was really wild
My poor old dad
He went insane
Cause I’m his little bitch
And in love with pain
So my daddy he spanked my butt
He turned me into his super spanky slut
I begged him for his mercy with tears in my eyes
He didn’t know that he just showed me paradise
Spank my booty
Come on and spank my booty
Spank my booty
Spank my booty real good
(x2)
lords of acid!!!???, what kinda of nightclubs have you been hanging out lately lordopie????
somehow they remind me spring break 02 - southpadre island.... :drool:
somehow i relate spanking with hip thrusting as well.
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