How many of you ladies dirtbike, too? [Archive]

dhjill

07-11-2004, 09:46 PM

I'm >< this close to picking up a used Yamaha TT-125R to start riding trails with- in hopes that my husband will let me buy my boys a dirtbike, too (lol-does that sound backwards or what?) Actually, he would love for them to dirtbike as long as it didn't cost anything :rolleyes:

Anyway, I was just curious how many of you dirtibike, too and how did you get started and what do you ride?

Do you find that its easier for you to get injured on the dirtbike than on your mtn bike, or are injuries equated with the risk you're taking?

Cheers,
Kristina

I just sold my YZ125 since I broke my ankle on the damn thing 5 months ago riding on the track with OCDH :). I've broken a few bones riding DH, but nothing was quite as bad as this one...it's been tough both mentally and physically. When I've had injuries on my MTB, I couldn't wait to get back on the bike...I never did feel that with the motorcycle accident. I knew I wanted to ride MTB again, but I wasn't (and still not) sure about riding motocross anymore. I might get a 4-stroke bike and do some trail riding, but I don't think I want to ride the track anymore. You get into trouble REALLY fast!

On the positive, riding MX helped my skills on the DH bike like I can't believe. Especially cornering since it teaches you to ride with you chest above your bars and keep some weight on the front end. It will help you ride MTB more aggressive and be comfortable with speed.

I'm pretty bummed I did what I did because I really loved riding MX a lot :(. Watch out if you do get a moto...it makes choosing between riding your bike and riding your moto REALLY difficult. Don't be surprised if your MTB's start collecting dust.:)

OCDH

07-11-2004, 11:09 PM

Watch out if you do get a moto...it makes choosing between riding your bike and riding your moto REALLY difficult. Don't be surprised if your MTB's start collecting dust.:)

LOL - so true! I have an xc bike, a dh bike, and a YZ250F - and only 2 weekend days :mumble: Oh, and the upkeep on 3 bikes is out of control!

Miss riding moto with you Jill - went to the track today with a big group. It was fun, but it was so hot that I drank an entire gallon of water myself :mad:

Smelly

07-12-2004, 04:29 AM

KPicha

07-12-2004, 06:18 AM

holy crap. COOLEST...MOM...EVER. :heart:
can i be your son too?

LOL- If you were my son, I'd buy you a bike, too ;)
but I've got four of my own for now. I think I've got my hands full at this time but thanks :D

I was only planning on riding trails with the moto, no MX. Although, it looks like a lot of fun, I won't have the control for that yet. I've never even ridden a motorcycle :eek: so I'd like to get some basic skills down before I get my boys one. I'm really hoping this will turn into something the whole family can do together.

Geez, I hope trailriding isn't as injury prone as MX! I may have to rethink this. Have you found that your injuries have come from slow speed, "stupid" mistakes, like that happen on the mtn bike or did they come from pushing the limits or were they totally out of blue type ones.

By the way, can I pick your brains for less than retail online shops for gear? :) or did you buy all of your gear from your local shop?

tmx

07-12-2004, 07:46 AM

best thread ever. best mom ever.

i love motocross and it's the reason why i started racing downhill. my life changed the day i stumbled upon the women's motocross league racing at the unadilla outdoor mx national. i didn't have a dirt bike, lived in nyc with no vehicle or place to keep a bike...and oy vay the expenses!! a very dear friend wanted to get me a dirtbike but couldn't afford one either and knew i couldn't afford the storage/vehicle/upkeep, so he gave me a downhill bike instead (though the dang thing probably cost more than a used dirt bike!!!! with NO engine!!!) and i figured if mercedes could start in mx and go to dh i could start in dh and go to mx. still without a dirt bike but jump at every chance someone offers a loaner. haven't been to a race for what seems years. used to go to all the east coast rounds of the us national motocross races and most of the women's league races as a spectator/uber-cheerleader until i started racing downhill. then that took up every weekend and last penny. i miss the mx races, but :love: it's influence on my mtn biking so it's all good.

trail riding is so much fun but i could also spend an entire day doing laps on a track. i've been eyeing that bike you mentioned for a while. it looks perfrect for someone's first bike and i hear it's a blast on trails. GET IT!!!! don't pass it up. injuries...schminjuries.

dhjill

07-12-2004, 10:22 AM

Geez, I hope trailriding isn't as injury prone as MX! I may have to rethink this. Have you found that your injuries have come from slow speed, "stupid" mistakes, like that happen on the mtn bike or did they come from pushing the limits or were they totally out of blue type ones.

By the way, can I pick your brains for less than retail online shops for gear? :) or did you buy all of your gear from your local shop?

I think trailriding is somewhat safer than MX...at least for me I think it would be. When I would hit the MX track, I was always pushing myself to go faster, race the boys, go bigger on jumps, yadda yadda yadda. Probably how I ended up on the ground with a busted ankle.

I got all my gear via industry hookup for the most part. What I had to pay for (like boots), I bought through Fox's industry employee purchase. So to answer your question, I really don't know of any discount gear retailers. Ebay's always a good place to start if you have an idea of what you're looking for! :)

dhjill

07-12-2004, 10:24 AM

Miss riding moto with you Jill - went to the track today with a big group. It was fun, but it was so hot that I drank an entire gallon of water myself :mad:

I miss riding with you, too!!!:( We'll have to do some DH soon since all my bikes lack an engine now :).

KPicha

07-12-2004, 10:58 AM

Well, bummer. I just checked out the used TT-R and it doesn't have an electric start and the salesguy had a hard time starting it. So, that didn't bode well for me, a total newbie. Plus, he was such a dork. Even though I told him I was completely new at this stuff, he didn't bother telling me how anything works or anything.

I called up another shop to see if they had any of that same bike, used and they didn't but they did offer me a good deal on a new Honda CRF100F plus 15% any gear and lifetime of 10% off future purchases. Not quite the bike I wanted since it doesn't have a disc brake in the front and the gas tank is a little smaller and unfortunately, they don't carry Yamahas. The sales guy on the phone was really helpful and I didn't feel like I was pulling teeth out of a donkey to get information. There's one other Yamaha dealer I want to check out but they're closed today so I'll have to wait until tomorrow :(

Velocity Girl

07-12-2004, 11:15 AM

Dirt bikes are tons of fun!!! But it does make it more difficult to choose what to do on the weekends. I unfortunately don't have mine any longer (traded 'em in for scooters to commute work to save gas money) but I do hope to have one again someday. I never really hit the track with mine, mainly trails, but I have a gut feeling I might have sooner or later ended up in the same position as dhjill pushing myself to keep up with the boys :p

RhinofromWA

07-12-2004, 11:51 AM

Edit: Try and link here http://community.webshots.com/album/90341209ZupynU
Or go to webshots.com and look up memeber Tredfield and find Stumpjumpers September Funday 2003.....the shots are in there. :( dang forbidden links.

My family motorcycle clubs has many of the TTR 125's being used by the ladies. There is a sister bike (real similiar) made by Suzuki DR(?) that is a 4 stroke 125cc bike if that helps you. They like them because they are mid sized bikes and aren't a handfull. Suzuki 125cc trail bike

Trail riding a dirt bike is like XC riding...you can still get hurt but the chances are less likely. Plus you still wear all your MX/DH gear when trial riding...unlike the lycra XC MTBr's wear.

Truthfully I don't know how much a deciding factor a disk front break should be to you when purchasing a play bike as you are looking at. I would look for over all price and value. They are all pretty low maintenance. Things to keep up on for maintenance:

1) Chain is adjusted and oiled before every ride/weekend ride. The chain goes through a lot of abuse and should be taken care of.
2) Motor oil is changed regularly
3) Suspension pivots and wheel bearings are regreased atleast once a year (or atleast twice a year in places like WA state...big long wet season. Once in the spring and once in the fall.)

Most motor maintenance should be non existant. Maybe a clutch (if owner abused) I rode and raced bikes and never replaced clutches...so rider style makes a difference there.

Actually if not to expensive the new Honda CRF 230 is electric start and a little bigger in frame and engine size to make riding more comfortable. I think DH Diva from this board has one. :)

If I can help you let me know.

Rhino

PS I normally get gear locally....unless I can't find what I want. Normally if you are patient there are closeouts or sales going on throughout the year at most shops around here....I did get my pants and jersey via internet but that is because I am fat not because I couldn't find sheap (errr that is supposed to be "cheap" a spelling error I swear! :) ) pants.

KPicha

07-12-2004, 12:55 PM

DH Diva

07-12-2004, 02:11 PM

First off, I'm stoked that more women are getting into dirt bikes! Second, how tall are you? My concern is that you are going to out grow a TT125 very quickly. I'm only 5'4" and comfortably ride a Honda CR230F. I know your looking at the Yami's, but I just wanted to let you know how happy I am with my CR230F (Honda). Their smaller version, the CF150F, also comes with electric start and a front disc for 2004. I have been completely happy with my honda. When I bought my bike, I looked at the yamaha tt225 and tt125. The older models were very heavy, and did not come as well equipped as the hondas did. When I first started looking, the CRf230's weren't available yet. I ended up waiting a year to buy a bike because I wasn't happy with what was available in my size (primarily the yami tt225 and tt125). If your close to my height I would recommend going with something the size of the 230. I do not recommend the yami tt225. I test rode one extensively. They are heavy, don't have that much get up and go, and are a little rougher in the suspension department than the hondas. I don't want to discourage you from the bike your looking at, I just want to let you know my experience with another line of bikes that you may not have considered. Often times, new women riders sell themselves short and get the smaller bike because they think thats all they need. I guarantee that in a couple of months you'll out grow the smaller bike and want something with some more get up and go. If you have any more questions just let me know. You can also give me ring if you want to talk, just pm me and I'll send you my number.

As far as injuries on the dirt bike? Well, I have found that with trail riding, which is what I primarily do, you don't get hurt the same as MX. I also have found it to be safer than dh racing. I actually ride my dirt bike when I'm injured from mountain biking to stay fit.

KPicha

07-12-2004, 02:29 PM

You know, you're making some good points that have actually been on my mind. I am 5'4", also and only having sat on the TT125 and moved it around, I got the feeling that I might outgrow it rather quickly. On the other hand, I don't actually plan on riding more than once a month as any riding areas are at least an hour away and I don't really have that kind of time luxury. I will check out that CR150F though now that you mention it. It may be small enough to enjoy now but give me some growing room, too and I know that the dealership that I like has one. Plus, I'm not exactly a lightweight either :)

The 225 Yami wasn't even a consideration. I had read, like you said, it was too heavy. Is your 230F your first bike? I'm trying to keep the cost around $2K- I know- its nothing at all and Honda is having a $200 rebate going right now so maybe I could get that 150 down some :)

DH Diva

07-12-2004, 02:43 PM

If your at all worried about out growing just after sitting on it, then I'm worried that you might out grow it really fast. Even if you are only planning on riding once a month, you'll be surprised how fast your skill level improves. The first time I ever rode a dirt bike, I borrowed my friends itty bitty bike. By the next time I went out, I was riding my other friends little bit bigger bike. I don't know if the honda cr150f is bigger than the tt125 or not. I would compare some specs and compare wheel sizes also. The smaller the bike, the smaller the wheels, which equals limited tire selection. Smaller wheels also ride a little rougher, because just like on a mountain bike, little wheels don't role over terrain as easily. They tend to get stuck in holes instead of rolling over stuff. Just something to consider. Keep us posted on what you find!

OCDH

07-12-2004, 03:37 PM

I have been riding moto 2-3 times a month for the last 6 months, and it is amazing how much work it is! You would think that having a throttle would make it easy, but trust me, it is a complete body workout!

I am finally getting used to riding, and it is really weird how I feel much safer on my moto than on my dh bike - it just feels so much more solid, especially when I am in the air.

I did my first race about a month ago - had to race the guys 'cause there were no other women. I had a great time, and made my goal of not getting lapped.

My next goal is to learn to trail ride.

RhinofromWA

07-12-2004, 03:54 PM

Hey, Rhino, thanks for the tips! I really wanted to get a Yamaha b/c of the electric start but the dealer that I liked doesn't carry them but they do carry Suzuki's. I hadn't considered a Suzuki b/c they didn't seem be as reliable as the Yamaha's (from what I've read). Off the top of your head, do you know if the Suzuki 125 has electric start?

Oh yeah, those pics are great! Looks like everyone had an awesome time!! :)
Link to Suzuki DR125L I don't see a kickstarter but didn't find mention of a E-button. :think:
http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/DRZ125LK5/Default.aspx

the Twin sister (same bike) KLX 125L (this looks like a kickstarter)
http://www.kawasaki.com/index2.asp

Keep in mind starting any of these bikes is not hard at all....AND if you were to have trouble starting the electric start....once teh battery is dead you are about done. :eek: They are not tuff at all to start so that shouldn't be a big concern either.

DH Diva

07-12-2004, 04:12 PM

Keep in mind starting any of these bikes is not hard at all....AND if you were to have trouble starting the electric start....once teh battery is dead you are about done. :eek: They are not tuff at all to start so that shouldn't be a big concern either.[/QUOTE]

The one thing to remember though, is that although most of them are not hard to start while sitting on flat ground, at the beginning of a ride, get your bike stuck on a side hill, half way through a 40 mile ride, with little short girl legs and it can get quite difficult. Even on my first bike, which was about 3-4 inches shorter than my CR230F, if I was standing on the downhill side of my bike I couldn't reach the kickstarter with my little legs. The "magic" button made all the world of difference to me, and to lots of short women I know who ride. I have yet to have starting problems, and even if something happens and the button doesn't work, you can always role start it. Just some more things to consider.

RhinofromWA

07-12-2004, 05:41 PM

The one thing to remember though, is that although most of them are not hard to start while sitting on flat ground, at the beginning of a ride, get your bike stuck on a side hill, half way through a 40 mile ride, with little short girl legs and it can get quite difficult. Even on my first bike, which was about 3-4 inches shorter than my CR230F, if I was standing on the downhill side of my bike I couldn't reach the kickstarter with my little legs. The "magic" button made all the world of difference to me, and to lots of short women I know who ride. I have yet to have starting problems, and even if something happens and the button doesn't work, you can always role start it. Just some more things to consider.
:D I am built like a knuckle dragger...... 29" inseam and 5'11" tall. I understand short legs and the problems that come with it...1st off all buying pants that dont catch the heals of my shoes. ;) So though mine don't look good in stockings....I have short leg syndrome aslo. lol

If you kill it on a hill and can't get it started there....you can always back down and try again. At best I believe on a trial bike the battery should be a secondary system with a primary kickstart. At a moto track it isn't a concern. It shouldn't be a selling point. I am all for having both, but just a push button scares me...more to break or go wrong.

On two ocassions have I seen a dead battery on a dirt bike while riding....both times on bikes riding in the rain and most likely drowned. Battery couldn't start the bike and was dead by the time they got everything dry and ready to rock. Point is it is dead in the water without a kickstarter.

I rode a dual purpose bike (DRS350) and had starting troubles and drained the battery...we think she was to hot and was being finicky. Luckily the bike was close to the truck at the end of the ride. A simple carborater problem and some long attempts at starting them will leave it dead also....it happens...especially when you don't want it to.

My mother is 5' 3/4" ;) tall and rode a fullsize honda XR (200 were full size back in the day) and could start it easily. People short and tall dealt with what you have for ages and there are always options but a bike you can kick over with your hand shouldn't worry you. A 650 XL Honda is a little tough to kick over and over...but the little 125 engines are cake. I think people should be comfortable with starting a bike with a kickstarter....it really isn't an obsticle that should hold someone from getting a small bike like we are talking about.

Nice to have? yes. Neccesity? No. Should you ignore a nice bike because it doesn't have E-start? Definately not. I have spent more miles than I can even begin to wrap around riding with my mother and other ladies in our club growing up and can see how the E-start is nice, I also know that ladies are perfectly capable to ride without them. I think they should be available but with a kickstarter also just incase there is trouble.

RhinofromWA

07-12-2004, 05:55 PM

riding tips for kickstarting a dirt bike when on a steep side hill. By RhinofromWA ;)

When found in a situation where the slope is falling away to your left and there isnot enough room to safely kick start your bike:

a) find a near by tree (or boulder, or hillside if it is steep enough) to rest your shoulder on while standing and kicking your bike over

b) If you are feeling daring, jump up and stab at the starter taking care to not highside (always good for an adrenaline rush)

c) Have a friend hold your bike while you start it.

d) if descending, bump start the bike

e) if starting is not an option and you are ascending. Turn the bike around and find a flat position to both start and get a run at the hill. Most often that is easier than starting mid hill.

f) If found in scenario e) you can (I hate to do it but if you can) roll your bike back and off the hill sideways to start and attempt the hill again.

g) toss the bike down the slope and walk home. :eek: (I have seen this before) :D

I did use a E=button on my last trail ride (DRS350 again) on a nasty switchback that I had to stop on when the rider ahead of me crashed. But all I needed to do was turn around and try it again. That is part of the fun.

DH Diva

07-12-2004, 06:27 PM

It really comes down to weighing your options. Unfortuanately, most small size bikes come with either a kick start, or an E-button. There are few that have both. The other problem with both is weight. Adding the battery, and the kickstart just make a heavier bike, which on a small bike is not a good thing. I guess you have to choose wether you want to struggle a little every time you ride (and possibly several times duing a ride depending on what type of trails you ride), or take that chance that maybe, once in a great great while, you may end up with a dead battery/battery malfunction. If you maintain your bike properly, check your seals and wiring regularly, frying a battery because of moisture is rare. My riding experience was greatly bettered by having the electric start on my bike. Yes there are ways to kickstart in difficult situations. You can find a tree, ect. But when your riding with a bunch of guys on WR 400's, the quicker you get going again the better! There's nothing like having a bunch of dudes have to wait for you while you try and prop up against something to start your bike! Again, it just comes down to what is really important to you as a rider.

:)

RhinofromWA

07-12-2004, 07:00 PM

Again, it just comes down to what is really important to you as a rider.

:)

True true.

Tell the guys to piss off and then ride circles around them :thumb: Never be embarrassed about making a second attempt at a hill or doing things different than a guy (taller person or whatever) I bet seeing a young lady attempting a hill they didn't make it up over agin gets more respect from your riding buddies than you think. Any girl who rips it up (rides at all) on a moto gets much respect from me. Dh too but we are talking moto's...I don't know anyone who rolls their eyes at a lady on the trail unless they happen to throw a fit....that doesn't fly. :)

Hey DH Diva you still loving your 230? Or are you wanting something bigger? Check out Tredfields website....he has a bunch of pics of our club stuff and other WA rides. Some good stuff in there. There is a lot so I hope you have dial up :eek:

Rhino "die-hard kickstarter old school motoboy" fromWA

PS- the batteries didn't die because of water they died because the engine was drowned and the bike wouldn't start before the bike dried out. It is similiar if you crash and flood the engine...if it doesn't start you need to figure things out before the battery goes dead.

Here is what I remember to do if you flood a bike: (Submerged or run water into a bike via a river crossing or deap puddle etc)

Tilt bike upside down, remove spark plug, drain water from cylinder and head, turn wheel... pumping bad gas/water mix out, and continue until engine is free of bad bad water. (Water doesn't burn and it doesn't compress very well so the engine no likey....need to get tat crap out)

Let dry.

Hope to god you didn't kill the batteries before you gave up and started the annoying process of drying out your bike. :D

Do that 2 or 3 times and I swear you will give up bikes altogether. But welcome to the PNW we ride in the rain....and the snow melt streams.

Used to be, an E start weighs more than kickstarters. *shrugs* maybe they have figured that out....a kickstarter generally won't fail you....if it does you have a whole other bunch of new problems. :D

I have logged to many miles.....it is insane

DH Diva

07-12-2004, 07:52 PM

''Never be embarrassed about making a second attempt at a hill or doing things different than a guy (taller person or whatever) I bet seeing a young lady attempting a hill they didn't make it up over agin gets more respect from your riding buddies than you think''

I actually have a better hill climb record than most of the guys I ride with! What gets me into trouble is letting my rear end come around and get me on slick fast stuff! Thats always a fun feeling...WHOOSH...Spin...Spin...Spin...come to stop, figure out which way is up...find bike!

Yeah, I really had a hard time finding a bike that met my demands. Thats probably why it took a year! I wanted a bike that had good parts on it, a front disc for sure, good suspension, not too heavy, short enough for me to get a toe down, easy starting (those xr's can be a b*tch when they get warm, or cold for that matter!) and actually had some get up and go. So far, I love my 230 and it has met all my requirements. I test rode several (different generations, including new) xr 200's. The 230 has way more kick to it. I installed the "up" kit. Which pretty much consists of uncorking the pipe, and rejetting the carb. Gave it much more kick, all for about $20! It's much peppier than it was stock. Next, upgrade will be an aftermarket pipe. It hasn't run out of power yet, but if it does, I have heard rumors that you can now get them bored and stroked to a 250 (probably for all those short thrill seeking ladies like myself ;) ). I'll probably do that to it if anything. I'm so happy with the fit that I can't imagine riding anything else now! And I got a screaming deal on it!

DH Diva

07-12-2004, 07:55 PM

I'm also investigating putting an inverted fork on it. I've heard that with a little modification, a fork that would fit say a KX 100 will work on my bike, if you want a plusher front end. I love modifying stuff!

KPicha

07-12-2004, 08:17 PM

Wow, you're really into this stuff big time! So, where does your money go? Mtn biking or motoing? or both? :)

All of you have given me alot to think about. It may just come down to finances in the end and I'll end up with the smaller bike.Hubby's not too happy about another money grubbing hobby I'm about to pick up :D

dhjill

07-12-2004, 09:42 PM

DH DIva has a good point...the TTR 125's and CRF100's are teenie tiny. The YZ250F would be a nice bike for you...it's a 4-stroke 125-class bike...but they are expensive because they are all the rage right now. If you are unsure whether you want to ride trails or MX, this is an option. The TTR bikes are pretty much trail-only bikes. I mean, you can take them to the track, but they are heavier and the geometry is more for trails.

If I get another bike, I'll probably get a YZ250F (however that could be a BAD choice since I'm afraid I'd eventually wind up on the track again) or a TTR225. A dual sport bike would be cool, too. Then you can just ride to the trails (moto-loading sucks unless you have help!).

Keep us posted! :)

KPicha

07-13-2004, 06:25 AM

Boy, I wish you ladies were over here on the East Coast :) We definitely need more "dangerous" women here ;)

I checked into the specs of the YX250 and, Yowzaaa :eek:, that seat height is TALL. I'm almost positive that I'll only be doing trail riding so an MX bike wouldn't be the way to go right now.

All of you have given some great input that I hadn't even considered before, especially the thought of trying to kickstart on a hill. That alone is enough for me to make an electric start priority. Funny, I was absolutely sure that the Yamaha TT-R125 was going to be the bike for me (I couldn't believe that bike was the same weight as me :eek: :) ) but now I'm seriously considering the Honda CRF150F. I'll have to go check that out today.

Hey, keep your fingers crossed for rain today so I have an excuse not to do our group ride and go hang out at the local off-road club meeting :devil: . Apparently, there's a waiting list to be able to belong to this club and alot of local members have land that they ride on. :thumb:

Freak

07-13-2004, 07:09 AM

Boy, I wish you ladies were over here on the East Coast :) We definitely need more "dangerous" women here ;)

Velocity Girl and myself just moved to the East Coast..... :thumb:

TreeSaw

07-13-2004, 07:52 AM

Boy, I wish you ladies were over here on the East Coast :) We definitely need more "dangerous" women here ;)

I live on the east coast...and I would :love: a dirtbike!!!! Just gotta convince the hubby (yeah, we're a little backwards too) :D

KPicha

07-13-2004, 07:54 AM

I live on the east coast...and I would :love: a dirtbike!!!! Just gotta convince the hubby (yeah, we're a little backwards too) :D

Ha, I'm in the same boat now. :( He's not liking this idea very much and I don't want to push my luck :( It might be a little longer than I thought before I can get one.

RhinofromWA

07-13-2004, 10:17 AM

I actually have a better hill climb record than most of the guys I ride with! What gets me into trouble is letting my rear end come around and get me on slick fast stuff! Thats always a fun feeling...WHOOSH...Spin...Spin...Spin...come to stop, figure out which way is up...find bike!
:thumb: Sweet :) Any moto crash you can walk away from.....:D

Yeah, I really had a hard time finding a bike that met my demands. Thats probably why it took a year! I wanted a bike that had good parts on it, a front disc for sure, good suspension, not too heavy, short enough for me to get a toe down, easy starting (those xr's can be a b*tch when they get warm, or cold for that matter!) and actually had some get up and go. So far, I love my 230 and it has met all my requirements. I test rode several (different generations, including new) xr 200's. The 230 has way more kick to it. I installed the "up" kit. Which pretty much consists of uncorking the pipe, and rejetting the carb. Gave it much more kick, all for about $20! It's much peppier than it was stock. Next, upgrade will be an aftermarket pipe. It hasn't run out of power yet, but if it does, I have heard rumors that you can now get them bored and stroked to a 250 (probably for all those short thrill seeking ladies like myself ;) ). I'll probably do that to it if anything. I'm so happy with the fit that I can't imagine riding anything else now! And I got a screaming deal on it!
All that plus the fork thing...........:think:

You know I am in the marked for a sugar momma....:) Nothing sexual of course, but if you like spending money.......

I am your money pit. lol

I was going to ask you if you have passed the suspension level yet.....and are looking for more/better suspension in a bike. That is the other flip side to them trail bikes....the better you get and the faster you make them go the suspension soon becomes the part that holds the experience back.

Kepp on rock'n that moto Dh Diva :thumb: :)

RhinofromWA

07-13-2004, 10:18 AM

Ha, I'm in the same boat now. :( He's not liking this idea very much and I don't want to push my luck :( It might be a little longer than I thought before I can get one.

Look long and hard at used bikes....often you save much more than any rebate and most 125 TTR type bikes have not been ridden hard.

RhinofromWA

07-13-2004, 10:20 AM

DH DIva has a good point...the TTR 125's and CRF100's are teenie tiny. The YZ250F would be a nice bike for you...it's a 4-stroke 125-class bike...but they are expensive because they are all the rage right now. If you are unsure whether you want to ride trails or MX, this is an option. The TTR bikes are pretty much trail-only bikes. I mean, you can take them to the track, but they are heavier and the geometry is more for trails.
The TTR's are heavier comparably.

But the 250F is more expensive because it is a full on race machine. It is on a totally different level than a trail bike like the TTR125 etc.

I want a KTM 200 or 250cc 2 stroke EXC....and they are about $5-6k new....:( So I am looking used. :)

KPicha

07-13-2004, 01:52 PM

Look long and hard at used bikes....often you save much more than any rebate and most 125 TTR type bikes have not been ridden hard.

You know, I was told that by someone else, too but after seeing that used one at the dealer, I'm not so sure. It was clean and all but still took a boatload of effort for the salesguy to start. I've only seen one in my area come up for sale and it was gone in a day or two :eek:! Wasn't the E one, though.

As far as gear goes, I'm not quite ready to plunk down a boatload for boots. Would work boots or hiking boots be sufficient for a while? I really have to minimize the costs of all this in order to get my "selling" points across to my husband, if you know what I mean ;)

RhinofromWA

07-13-2004, 07:42 PM

You know, I was told that by someone else, too but after seeing that used one at the dealer, I'm not so sure. It was clean and all but still took a boatload of effort for the salesguy to start. I've only seen one in my area come up for sale and it was gone in a day or two :eek:! Wasn't the E one, though.

As far as gear goes, I'm not quite ready to plunk down a boatload for boots. Would work boots or hiking boots be sufficient for a while? I really have to minimize the costs of all this in order to get my "selling" points across to my husband, if you know what I mean ;)
There is probably a reason that the TTR sold in a couple days and the other one is sitting in the shop....still.

A crappy used bike is a crappy used bike. A good used bike is a gem. Problem is you need to be ready with cash in hand if you are going to jump on a clean rig. Not all used bikes are clean...but the ones that are will save you loads of cash.

The one on the show room floor I have some theories on....
- Dork couldn't start to catch a cold let alone start a bike ;)
- Bike had jetting issues...or was abused.
- There was a reason it was traded in to a dealer...don't by someone elses basket case.

I will say this as clear as I can. if you find a e-button a=go for it...but you don't need it. I am confident you can start a TTR by yourself in dang near any situation. This should not steer you away from a cleanused rig or even a new one on closeout. If you get a E-start bonus for you (I guess :) ) but it shouldn't worry you.

Boots can be had for under $100 easy. Check out Oneal for their cheap ones. Tall lace up boots are OK for starters, but catching a toe and twisting(breaking) your ankle because you didn't have the support of the MX boot is a possibility especially when learning....fresh riders tend to dab and drag their feet. ;) Gear to get first(in this order):
1- Helmet $50-100
2- boots and MX socks $70-120
3- Knee Pads $20
4- Gloves $20
5- MX pants $50-120
6- Jersey $20-50
7- Chest Protector/Body Armor (I can explain to you why a "chest protector" is more than just covering your chest, or more than a roost gaurd)

Online retailers can sell you a whole package dang near for a few hundred dollars....look in a MX magazine and check out the stores. that is the easiest way.

DH Diva

07-13-2004, 07:54 PM

Boots can be had for under $100 easy. Check out Oneal for their cheap ones. Tall lace up boots are OK for starters, but catching a toe and twisting(breaking) your ankle because you didn't have the support of the MX boot is a possibility especially when learning....fresh riders tend to dab and drag their feet.

Get the boots asap! Other than your helmet they are the single most important piece of gear you can own!! Even an experienced rider can come around a turn, lean into the low bushes, and find a big old stump with their shin. $100 for boots up front is much cheaper than a busted up leg/foot and the associated doctor bills. Having a nice stiff boot also helps with shifting and your feet don't get so tired so fast.

KPicha

07-13-2004, 08:24 PM

Wow, I know this isn't the appropriate place for this kind of discussion so I AM REALLLLY Grateful for your kind tips!! I wish you guys lived closer so I had someone to see me through the baby steps of getting started. It seems that there are hardly any groups in this area that "cater" to newbies, unlike the mtn bike world where everyone is so willing to lend a hand.

Ok, well, I trust your judgement so I guess it'll be helmet and boots first. Those things are so freaky looking. Reminds of when I first started mtn biking and thought the same thing. Its a wonder they haven't come out with clipless MX boots! :eek: lol-can you imagine?! Anyway, I've been doing some poking around and did see some on close-out for a measley $60. :)

Geez, what the he!! am I doing!?!? I've never even started a bike much less ridden one! This is going to be a fun adventure! :D

DH Diva

07-13-2004, 09:12 PM

Geez, what the he!! am I doing!?!?

Some of life's best adventures start out with those very words!

dhjill

07-13-2004, 10:45 PM

As far as gear goes, I'm not quite ready to plunk down a boatload for boots. Would work boots or hiking boots be sufficient for a while? I really have to minimize the costs of all this in order to get my "selling" points across to my husband, if you know what I mean ;)

NO!!!!! Do NOT wear work boots when you ride! Take it from someone who broke their ankle wearing high-end boots (Fox Forma Bubbas). I couldn't even imagine what I would have done to my ankle not wearing them. You can buy boots used...buy the best you can afford. Alpinestars Tech 8's, Fox Forma's, Sidi are good brands. You can go cheap on pants, gloves, jersey, etc., but like a helmet, boots are something you don't want to skimp on.

Sorry...didn't mean to scare you you don't wanna ride without a good pair of moto boots :) You can ride nekkid if it floats yer boat...just don't ferget yer boots and helmet!!! :)

dhjill

07-13-2004, 11:37 PM

Look long and hard at used bikes....often you save much more than any rebate and most 125 TTR type bikes have not been ridden hard.

Agreed...sometimes you inherit someone elses problem but sometimes you find a good one that the husband bought for the wife that ended up being "too much bike". Have you priced out new TTR 125's? You said you want to stay as close to $2K as possible. My friend bought one a few months ago and I think she only paid $2500 brand new. If you remain patient, you can probably find one in the $2K range used.

dhjill

07-13-2004, 11:40 PM

KPicha

07-14-2004, 05:58 AM

Try www.mxgirl.com. It's kinda fun. :)

Funny, I saw that site last week and followed a link from there to a site that offered MX classes for complete beginners, one of which is in Irving, TX, where my sister lives. I told her about it and now she wants to go! :D I'm such a good influence :devil: :)

Yeah, the new TT-R125LEs (electric start one) are at $2600 but the dealers around here are "willing to work with me" on pricing. Not sure how much, maybe a hundred or two but I doubt anymore than that so, I am keeping my eyes open for a used one within a couple of hours driving distance. I've seen some new ones in TN and OH for $2100 but the shipping cost would negate the savings :(

Oh and for helmets, I saw these http://www.rockymountainmc.com/home.asp?sid=0004952830 Are they, "ooooo, stay away from that brand!" helmets or "Go for it" ones. I'm liking the A.R.C. ones.

So, TreeSaw, are you still following this thread? Getting any closer to picking one up? ;) :devil: I bet, secretly, your husband wants you to get one, that way he'd be justified in getting one for himself. And how many guys do we all know, that really want motorcycles but someone says "No" :D

dhjill

07-14-2004, 10:54 AM

Oh and for helmets, I saw these http://www.rockymountainmc.com/home.asp?sid=0004952830 Are they, "ooooo, stay away from that brand!" helmets or "Go for it" ones. I'm liking the A.R.C. ones.

If I were you, I would try and get the best helmet you can afford. It's your brain you're protecting, here. Bell, Arai, Fox, M2R...there's lots of good brands. Most all the larger companies put more money into the R & D process...there's a reason why the better helmets cost more money. Like I said in a previous message...skimp on stuff like pants, gloves, jerseys, chest protector...but put some money into buying quality boots and helmet. :)

RhinofromWA

07-14-2004, 10:58 AM

Get the boots asap! Other than your helmet they are the single most important piece of gear you can own!! Even an experienced rider can come around a turn, lean into the low bushes, and find a big old stump with their shin. $100 for boots up front is much cheaper than a busted up leg/foot and the associated doctor bills. Having a nice stiff boot also helps with shifting and your feet don't get so tired so fast.
:thumb: True on that!

RhinofromWA

07-14-2004, 11:13 AM

If I were you, I would try and get the best helmet you can afford. It's your brain you're protecting, here. Bell, Arai, Fox, M2R...there's lots of good brands. Most all the larger companies put more money into the R & D process...there's a reason why the better helmets cost more money. Like I said in a previous message...skimp on stuff like pants, gloves, jerseys, chest protector...but put some money into buying quality boots and helmet. :)
While not all helmets are created the same....they all are tested to be good helmets. Snell and DOT have criteria for helmets to pass before they sell them as dirt bike helmets.

While cheaper helmets may saound scary the do the same job as well as others. It comes down to fit and comfort. Cheaper helmets have a polycarbonate shell (normally) They are often lighter than the fiberglass bretheren that take up the mid price helmet field. As you go more expensive you get into exotic materials like Kelvar and carbon fiber. This pushes the price up and brand name carries a price with it too. My head has never fit into a Shoei helmet right....no matter how much I could spend it was teh wrong helmet. I found a MSR helemt that fit right for $129 on close out at a local shop. That was the helmet for me.

Same with boots....fit over price is important. But for trail riding and learning she doesn't need mega buck boots. She isn't leaping 60ft triples she is looking for support and function. Even a decent inexpensive lace up boot will do that....especially when not racing MX.

KPicha,

For a low cost option I suggest Oneal's Element group. Rocky Mountain MC.com had a add in the magazine Iwas reading last night and it looks like you could be covered head to toe for under $300 easy. I looked at their website and couldn't find the package deals they listed in teh magazine. It might be worth a call.

In the same amgazine they had a Beginner bike review (including the TTR SRF's DRZ and KLX's) and also an article about ladies and moto.....how to get started etc. Perfect timing...I guess. they had links and contact info for various lady oriented groups our schools

I beleive it was Dirt Bike or Dirt Rider magazines and it had Ricky Carmicheal an his new 450CRF on teh cover. It is a new magazine so you should be able to find it....about $5 at the magazine rack. ;)

Velocity Girl

07-14-2004, 03:24 PM

Ok, well, I trust your judgement so I guess it'll be helmet and boots first. Those things are so freaky looking.

Too true!!! The boots I ended up with are a pair of Sidis, white with black accents. They look like the freakin' storm trooper boots in Star Wars!!!! Cracks me up almost every time I put them on. But I agree with everyone that a good helmet and boots are a must. And if you do get a bike with a kickstart, you'll be liking the extra support from an MX boot. I don't know how your feet are though, but I found MX boots to be like helmets.....gotta try 'em on to know which is comfortable. I ordered a pair of O'Neals that are now collecting dust (still have to sell 'em!) because I put my foot in and just knew they wouldn't be comfortable to be in for a few hours. My Sidis feel like slippers, but good lord those slippers can get pricey!! I tried so hard to stay away from them (knowing how comfy their mtn shoes are) and tried on every other pair of boots before finally trying on those and feel in love! (That's what I get for having such big wide feet...lol!)

RhinofromWA

07-14-2004, 05:09 PM

(That's what I get for having such big wide feet...lol!)
Biting tongue.........

ah heck

You do have some freakish duck feet don't ya? :D who luvs ya VG...apperantly not me ;) j/k Hope you and the family are closer to being settled in over there.......> ont eh left coast WAAAAAAAAAAY over ---------> there. :D

Velocity Girl

07-15-2004, 09:12 AM

Biting tongue.........

ah heck

You do have some freakish duck feet don't ya? :D who luvs ya VG...apperantly not me ;) j/k Hope you and the family are closer to being settled in over there.......> ont eh left coast WAAAAAAAAAAY over ---------> there. :D

LOL! Why yes they are a bit on the freakish side ;) I've had these clodhoppers since I was 11 years old :eek: I had a teacher who loved the phrase "Act your age not your shoe size" Well, he had to bite his tongue they day he said that to me because my age was my shoe size :p Just wish I was taller to balance everything out!

RhinofromWA

07-15-2004, 10:22 AM

Just wish I was taller to balance everything out!
Seems to me with feet that size you had no problem balancing as a child....:)

Oh damn I am on fire! lol Your feet aren't big...you filled out nicely. ;)

It's that 6th toe that freaks me out (j/k everyone, she only has 5...I :think: ).

VG I better be seing some pics of you and Freak having fun out there soon! Maybe I will have to visit Jessah with a little detour over to where you are at....

but I need to build up some vacation time....alot actually. :)

Velocity Girl

07-15-2004, 12:23 PM

Seems to me with feet that size you had no problem balancing as a child....:)

Oh damn I am on fire! lol Your feet aren't big...you filled out nicely. ;)

It's that 6th toe that freaks me out (j/k everyone, she only has 5...I :think: ).

VG I better be seing some pics of you and Freak having fun out there soon! Maybe I will have to visit Jessah with a little detour over to where you are at....

but I need to build up some vacation time....alot actually. :)

One would think I would have balance....but I actually have the grace of an elephant at times!

If you come out to visit Jessah we can always make a trek to PA or meet somewhere in between. You know what a crush Freak has on your gal so I'm sure he won't argure ;)

KPicha

07-15-2004, 01:04 PM

RhinofromWA

07-15-2004, 02:40 PM

Ok, changing the subject here for a sec ;)

I got to sit on a CRF150 yesterday and the suspension felt much better than the TT-125LE. It didn't sag under my weight. Not sure if that's a good thing or not but I would guess that it is.

It felt like a great fit, too and it had a button on the left side, just inside the grip so I'm wondering if that was an E-start button. All the sales guys were busy and the kids were climbing on the little bikes so I had to be quick and didn't have a chance to ask.
I am betting it is a Kill-switch (stops teh motor) Do Hondas have round black nubs or are they red square plastic units? :think:
Suspension is going to be similiar except for the springs most likely....and some sag is needed but not to much. A shop should be able to let yo know if you need a different spring.

I could touch the ground with both feet but not quite flat footed. One thing that has me concerned, though is the weight. I'm afraid that when I fall over, I won't be able to pick it back up again. The 150 is bigger than the TT-R125 but only by about an inch and it is about 30lbs heavier. So, at this point its boiling down to a used CRF150 or TT-R125LE but I'm leaning towards the CRF b/c of its growing room and I've been reading about the TTs having a little bit of a problem starting cold. The only thing holding me back is the weight on the 150.
Out of the dozen TTR's and DRZ's and CRF's general starting has never been an issue...that I have heard of. Generally there is a starting ritual ... especially with 4 strokes (like you are looking at) and it just takes a little experience to get it down. Soon you won't have to think about it. Only seen the CRF 230 battery dead once(I can't remember teh exact culprit)....99% of the time it is starting like all the rest.

I have faith you can pick up a 150 CRF. Now if it was a Harley you might need the some help. It is a bunch of technique and little muscle. :D When picking a bike up, use you leg as a stop half way through and use your whole body to get it up. Hips and legs are what are going to do the majority of the lifting. What is the CRF150 like 190lbs? and the TTR 170Lbs?

I stand on the handlebar side and grab the grips. I then basically do a squat and if I can't get it up all the way, or need a pause, I slip my knee uder the bike to take a breath and then finish lifting buy pushing withmy leg and my hip tilting the bike up all the way still hold the bars. I have raised behemoths from some insane perdicaments like that. :)

I think the vast majority of the time you would not have a problem picking up any of those bikes. Even tired, jsut means a couple more pauses. The ladies in the club don't seem to have issues with the bieks weight.

And did any of you just go out on your own and learn how to ride? I can't seem find anyone or anyplace to learn with, other than my court and I'm sure the neighbors wouldn't be too happy about hearing one those going up and down the street.
My father made me prove to him that I could ride a bicycle without training wheels before I could get a bike. I never used training wheels on a motorcycle and (though I was 5yo) probably spent most of my formative miles in gravel/dirt parking lots and simple trails. :D now you are not 5yo so Maybe some general riding around the house or culdesac. The 125 and 150 are not loud....heck offer the neighbors a spin. ;) then everyone is happy. I would like to see riders familiar with the controls before they have to worry about trees! lol.

Practice starting cold and hot also...so you have that expereince to. Find local clubs like mine (www.stumpjumpers.org) to go out with and meet others riding. I belong to a family Motoclub and there are a handfull just in Western WA.

KPicha

07-15-2004, 08:43 PM

RhinofromWA

07-16-2004, 10:43 AM

Yep, it sounds like it was the kill switch. A little black box on the Honda and a little red button on the Yamaha. The Honda ones look like something one of the shop guys rigged up at the last minute whereas the Yamaha one looked "professional".

Someone on another board mentioned shop set-up fees in a post. Does that have to do with setting the suspension up? And he was saying it was anywhere from $200-$300!! :eek:

So, all in all, would which would you say costs more between dirtbiking and mtn biking as far as maintance/replacement parts goes. It seems that a lot of costs go towards entrance fees to different parks and tracks. Not like we have in mtn biking.

Kill switch is a kill switch....I wouldn't worry about them.

Set up fees means they took it out of a box, filled it up with oil and gas, mounted the handle bars and front tire.....that will be $300 bucks please. I am not sure but any sort of warranty requires the shops prep the bikes. Mind you it is rare if at all that something breaks to fall under warranty. It isn't the MTB world so don't expect much support if you come in with a bent handlebar. :) Suspension set up is normally not the deal....no replacing of springs or anything...though when buying new you may be able to hagle that type of help.

I don't think the upkeep cost are much different. It depends on how much you ride....1 weekend a month with the family? Forrest passes (buy an annual....you need it for MTBing in the areas also) Parts for bieks depends on what you break/wear out. Tires? When I was rippening on a dirt bike 1-2 weekends a month and racing a knob ripping 250cc race bike I would replace my tires like once a year. Some replace them much more frequently.....but I didn't. I ran them down pretty far. :) Rear get changed much more than fronts....much more. Gas, chain lube, sprocket and chain once a year...again all depends on how much you ride and the conditions you ride in. Plastic (when you crash) can be repaired with a drill and zip ties.

For MTB I am always replacing tires, tubes, chains, derailers, rotors, pads...etc. Moslty DH oriented. Forks, seat posts, etc..........

You will still have your MTB right?

A TTR/CRF/DRZ/KLX will be less wear and tear on parts than any bike I rode. You save a lot of money doing maintenance yourself. Like on MTB's the more you can do teh more you can spend on stuff other than labor. Tire changes are tougher on a bike. ;)

On a bike like you are looking at. I can see items that might need replacing in the first year as:
levers (crash)
gas (cuz you burned it)
oil/filters (does a body good
and chain/sprockets (stocks normally don't last as long)
Maybe H-bars (If you crash)

See how alot of the stuff happens when you crash....now remember they won't all break when you crash. They bikes are tougher than that....but they are bits of metal stickingout and can break in a fall.

You could ride the bike for 1-2 years with little more than gas, oil & filter, chain lube.....just keep the bike maintained.

KPicha

07-16-2004, 11:43 AM

Ok, cool-that's what I was hoping to hear. $300 for piddly stuff though. Oh well, what can you do.

Sounds like I'd be spending the same or even less at this point than on my Mtb. Just got new cranks/bb, wheels and brakes this year so I hope it'll be a long while before I need anything else :blah: :) Talk about a money pit! :rolleyes:

RhinofromWA

07-16-2004, 12:03 PM

Also...if you ad youru hubby are up to it.

On a new bike especially. The headset is normally in need of more lube than fro the factory and most bolts need loctiting. The bolts like the plastice pannel bolts, seat bolts, etc. They tend to rattle loose and it is just good to get them right away and not have missing bolt problems later. :)

Are there any dirt bike clubs in your area?

Oh and did you get that magazine I mentioned? In the RockymountainMC.com add they have an oneal Gear closeout for under $300. Helmet, boots, Pants, jersey, gloves, some other armor....no return policy on closeouts so trying some one first might be a good idea. There were other gear brands on closeout too.

OCDH

07-16-2004, 02:44 PM

On a bike like you are looking at. I can see items that might need replacing in the first year as:
levers (crash)
gas (cuz you burned it)
oil/filters (does a body good
and chain/sprockets (stocks normally don't last as long)
Maybe H-bars (If you crash)

See how alot of the stuff happens when you crash....now remember they won't all break when you crash. They bikes are tougher than that....but they are bits of metal stickingout and can break in a fall.

You could ride the bike for 1-2 years with little more than gas, oil & filter, chain lube.....just keep the bike maintained.

I have had my bike 6 months, riding 2-3 times a month, and I have already had to do the following:

-replace the levers (not 'cause they were broken, but because I needed to get ones with a smaller reach- just like mtbing)
-buy new handlebars - the stock ones are really weak - I bent them in a crash
-buy new front brake line - also broke in above crash
-change the oil every 5 rides
-change the oil filter every 10 rides
-lube the air filter every couple of rides
-rebuild the fork - leaking seals

I am also in need of a new rear tire - probably only have a couple of more rides out of it.

I think I do more maintence on my moto than on my bikes. I try to wash it after every ride - you have no idea how much mud those things can collect! Changing the oil is a new thing to me, so it takes me quite a while. I have also been told to inspect all the bolts on a regular basis. The rest of the stuff my bf does for me - I am just the tool holder.

Out here in Socal, it is a minimum of $20 every time you go to the track. Gas is not too bad - 4 strokes go a long way on a tank.

I thing that frustrates me the most about moto is the fact that I can't get my bike in my truck by myself. There is no way that I will ever be able to push 210 lbs up a ramp :mad:

Gear - I get a lot of gear cheap off the Fox website - they have a clearance section that has a lot of good deals. As for boots, I bought a used pair off some kid who is a sponsored rider - he used them once, then sold them to me for $100. Turns out they are $350 boots that were specially made for him in a small size - bonus for me since I was having a hard time finding good boots in my size - too big for kids, but too small for men's.

Anyway, good luck with whatever bike you choose. As Rhino has pointed out, maintenance is very important and will prolong the life of your bike.

KPicha

07-16-2004, 06:19 PM

Yep, I got a hold of that magazine. Its already a wrinkled, well worn magazine with my 5 yr old having gone nuts over it and wanting me to show him which bike and gear I wanted to get :)

Well, it looks like all the pants/jerseys have sold out already at Rockymountmc but Donelson's has some good stuff and great prices, too! Fox stuff, at least in mtn biking tends to run really small and I can't fit into anything they have but I'll check them out for boots.
Oh I did see some Sidi boots for $100 on that motonation website. Looks like the same kind of deal as yours, OCDH.
I need to sell off some more of my coin collection before I can start buying gear. Donelson's has some REALLY good deals, though! :)

As far as clubs go, there are only two that I know of. I'm in the process of joining one but I'm getting the feeling that I'm not welcome unless I already have a bike and am an intermediate rider. I need to look into the other one more and see how they feel about beginners. I have a suspicion that I'm going to be completely on my own, though.

So, I'm keeping my eyes open for a nicely used CRF150F or a TT-R15LE :)

Oh, are FLY racing boots worthwhile? They're part of one of the packages.

RhinofromWA

07-16-2004, 06:36 PM

I have had my bike 6 months, riding 2-3 times a month, and I have already had to do the following:

-replace the levers (not 'cause they were broken, but because I needed to get ones with a smaller reach- just like mtbing)
-buy new handlebars - the stock ones are really weak - I bent them in a crash
-buy new front brake line - also broke in above crash
-change the oil every 5 rides
-change the oil filter every 10 rides
-lube the air filter every couple of rides
-rebuild the fork - leaking seals

I am also in need of a new rear tire - probably only have a couple of more rides out of it.
Dang :eek: I neglected to mention cleaning the oiling the air filter! Thank you. :o: The airfilter keeps the engine breathing dirt free....but it used oil to stop teh dirt particles. The

I have never needed to replace a brakeline on a bike ever. My fahter did once. It happens but is not close to routine....guess you have a decade or so before your next one. :D Fork leaking? I had them go maybe like once every 1-2 years.

I think I do more maintence on my moto than on my bikes. I try to wash it after every ride - you have no idea how much mud those things can collect! Changing the oil is a new thing to me, so it takes me quite a while. I have also been told to inspect all the bolts on a regular basis. The rest of the stuff my bf does for me - I am just the tool holder.

Out here in Socal, it is a minimum of $20 every time you go to the track. Gas is not too bad - 4 strokes go a long way on a tank.
She isn't motoing she is trail riding so there shouldn't be track fees. And yes, checking bolts is a very good thing.

I work on my DH bike more than I ever worked on my dirt bikes. And I don't crash to much on my DH bike...cuase I ride so slow.

I thing that frustrates me the most about moto is the fact that I can't get my bike in my truck by myself. There is no way that I will ever be able to push 210 lbs up a ramp :mad:
What bike do you have? 250 4stroke MX'r? You have an oil filter and it wieghs 210lbs and you take it to the track....Is it someting else?

I suffer from short-leg-itus so it was cumbersome to get in and out of the truck. What kind of truck? have you looked into a rail trailer? They are low to the ground and the ramp angles are low.

Gear - I get a lot of gear cheap off the Fox website - they have a clearance section that has a lot of good deals. As for boots, I bought a used pair off some kid who is a sponsored rider - he used them once, then sold them to me for $100. Turns out they are $350 boots that were specially made for him in a small size - bonus for me since I was having a hard time finding good boots in my size - too big for kids, but too small for men's.

Anyway, good luck with whatever bike you choose. As Rhino has pointed out, maintenance is very important and will prolong the life of your bike.
Website manufacture closeouts are good sources too :thumb: Fox, Oneal does, etc.....

OCDH

07-16-2004, 07:26 PM

[QUOTE=RhinofromWA]
"I have never needed to replace a brakeline on a bike ever. My fahter did once. It happens but is not close to routine....guess you have a decade or so before your next one. :D Fork leaking? I had them go maybe like once every 1-2 years."

Unfortunately, I crash quite a bit. I am really trying to work on cornering, but apparently you need to use the back brake, which I haven't figured out yet.

"What bike do you have? 250 4stroke MX'r? You have an oil filter and it wieghs 210lbs and you take it to the track....Is it someting else?

I suffer from short-leg-itus so it was cumbersome to get in and out of the truck. What kind of truck? have you looked into a rail trailer? They are low to the ground and the ramp angles are low."

Yes, I have a Yamaha 250F - I love it! It is relatively easy to ride and start, but I wish it was 2" lower. My truck is a Tacoma PreRunner, so my dream ramp would be something really long that would somehow fold up really small. Or one of those super cheater racks that attaches to the hitch and has the electric switch to raise and lower the rack. I am pretty sure those aren't cheap though :angry:

RhinofromWA

07-16-2004, 07:48 PM

Unfortunately, I crash quite a bit. I am really trying to work on cornering, but apparently you need to use the back brake, which I haven't figured out yet.

Yes, I have a Yamaha 250F - I love it! It is relatively easy to ride and start, but I wish it was 2" lower. My truck is a Tacoma PreRunner, so my dream ramp would be something really long that would somehow fold up really small. Or one of those super cheater racks that attaches to the hitch and has the electric switch to raise and lower the rack. I am pretty sure those aren't cheap though :angry:

The rear brake is the pedal on that right foot.....;) lol. I think hamfisting the front will put you in the dirt faster.....how are you with the front? I live and die by the rear brake. :o: :cool:

Sweet! 250F :thumb:

Often I looked for little rises to back up to so I could unload and load bikes...it makes it that much easier. I have seen others use step stools (bike stands) to help jump up into the back of their trucks. But a hillside works better.

DO NOT try and ride your bike up into the truck......:o: trust me. :D Sounds like a good idea but it only takes one miss at that ramp......:D

They make wider ramps that fold for ATV's....one for your bike and one for you...that could be an option. I think a small low trailer wouldn't be a bad idea....no hieght issues.

I am out for the weekend. Everyone enjoy themselves....I am taking my fathers 2000 Harley Heritage Soft Tail out. :) and am going to enjoy this beautiful WA weather we are having.

KPicha

07-17-2004, 06:08 AM

Hey, OCDH, Have you thought about lowering your bike at all?

Here's an interesting thread about that with some manufacturer links http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1217408/page/0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1

and maybe this will help with your loading/unloading issues? I don't know if you want to spend that much but at least it might help.
http://shop.thumpertalk.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=si-450

Yeah, I don't plan on doing any MX but most of the riding places around here charge a fee for trail access anyway, around $25 or more.:( And people are not forthcoming with riding info to boot. I feel like I'm pulling teeth out of a donkey looking for local places to ride.

KPicha

07-22-2004, 08:10 AM

OCDH

07-28-2004, 02:22 PM

Oh, I just came across something else that will attach to your hitch that looks easy for loading/unloading at $295 it doesn't look toooo bad. Its cheaper than a trailer anyway :)

http://www.ultimatemxhauler.com/index.html

Wow - just saw this as I was on travel for the past week and a half - Thanks for the tip KPicha - that thing actually looks pretty cool - and it's the same red as my truck!

As for lowering my bike, I thought about cutting down the seat, but is looked like so much work that I just decided to learn to ride it like it is.

RhinofromWA

07-29-2004, 07:40 PM

- and it's the same red as my truck! :think: :D hahahaha

lowering my bike, I thought about cutting down the seat, but is looked like so much work that I just decided to learn to ride it like it is. It is a cheap option to try.....it isn't that hard. new seat from SDG will set you back less tha $100 if I remember right. That is if you totaly mess it up.

KPicha

08-01-2004, 08:30 PM

Wow - just saw this as I was on travel for the past week and a half - Thanks for the tip KPicha - that thing actually looks pretty cool - and it's the same red as my truck!

Ok, I must be dumb or something b/c I can't figure out how you're supposed to get the bike on that flat part in the first place! Do they really expect us to life the front wheel over it or scoot the bike up and over it? I don't get it
:confused:

Oh by the way, I've decided on a CRF230 unless I can check out the new Yamaha TT-R230 before I take the plunge. :thumb:

RhinofromWA

08-02-2004, 10:50 AM

Ok, I must be dumb or something b/c I can't figure out how you're supposed to get the bike on that flat part in the first place! Do they really expect us to life the front wheel over it or scoot the bike up and over it? I don't get it
:confused:

Oh by the way, I've decided on a CRF230 unless I can check out the new Yamaha TT-R230 before I take the plunge. :thumb:

Roll it up next to it and then throw it on with your hip....just like a MX stand/crate. I don't hink you have a lot to worry about there....unless the clearance of the CRF230 is a LOT lower than a MX bike. Even then a simple hip lift will get the bike on there.....or you could always ask a guy near by.

Men normally have no problem helping a female rider when asked....the cool guys anyway. ;)

Mooven

08-25-2004, 04:20 PM

Moto discussion, wahoo:)

It was great to see this forum with so many posts, I was starting to think that I was the only girl with a moto addiction. And I don't even have a bike yet. I've ridden the 125ttr-le, and found that within my first few hours of riding at the track that it wasn't enough bike for me. I then took a XR-85 to the track the next day, much more fun. More power, more suspension, and a bike that is geared for track riding. I bottomed out the suspension on the 125ttr within half and hour of riding it (and this was my first time on a moto and I'm only 5'1). I haven't decided yet which bike I am going to purchase yet. Looking at a CRF250R and a YZ125. Every boy I know is trying to talk me out of a two stroke, telling me I'm going to end up six feet under, but it would be dirt cheap, as opposed to buying a new CRF250R. Another friend of mine who teaches motocross has suggested a CRF150, which would be nice since I could get on and off the bike comfortably, but the suspension concerns me a bit for going to the track. I want a bike that I can ride both track and trail on, but I see myself riding more track than trail for a while. I'm also a little skeptical about buying a new CRF150 because I don't want to spend a bunch of money to grow out of a bike quickly, and since I haven't been able to ride one yet I don't know if it would keep me entertained for at least a year. I plan on riding as much as possible.

I've seen a few of you guys are from SoCal, how is the track riding out there? I am thinking about moving back, I've been in Colorado for the past three months recovering from surgery from a DH accident.

Oh, and with what little I do know about moto, good boots and a good helmet seem like the things not to skimp on. I laid myself out at the track the other day and was very thankful for both :thumb:

altagirl

08-30-2004, 10:30 PM

I haven't checked in here in a while, but I have a dirt bike too (a DR-Z250). I've been really happy with my bike - good low end for the technical trails we tend to ride, and I'm tall enough that the size just feels right to me.

I think it's great cross-training for mountain biking, not to mention just plain fun! I tend to hurt myself more riding DH - I think the extra coverage from boots helps keep me from getting as scraped and bruised as much... You can hurt yourself doing anything if you try hard enough! ;)

KPicha

08-31-2004, 05:28 AM

He, he yeah fun topic! :D I'm at the point now where I thought for sure I was going to get a CRF230 but the weight really has me bothered so now I'm considering a KX100. I haven't sat on one yet so once I have a chance to do that, then I'll know whether or not it'll be a good fit.

Mooven, if you know you're going to be riding on tracks, the KX100 gets really good reviews from owners as having smooth power and the suspension is perfect for tracks and trail riding. But the gearing would need a little modification for trail riding. You said you're only 5'1" so you would probably want to look into lowering the suspension. Oh, the CRF150 is a trail bike and the suspension isn't setup for track riding so more than likely, you'd grow out of it pretty quickly (from what little I know ;) ) Anyway, I can't wait to start riding!

KPicha

09-12-2004, 12:57 PM

Okay, guys and gals, here it is! I finally picked up a KX100 yesterday and boy is that thing FUN!! and F-A-S-T!

For my very first time out on a motorcycle, I think I did all right. Kick starting was easy-got it on the second try b/c the first one was too wimpy. Then rode around and got up to third gear and realized I was about ready to have a heart attack-lol! So I quit while I was ahead. :rolleyes:

Anyway, here are some pics of the kids sitting on it. Funny, if you look at my 2 yr old's mouth, you can probably guess what he's saying! :love:

RhinofromWA

09-13-2004, 01:21 PM

Anyway, here are some pics of the kids sitting on it. Funny, if you look at my 2 yr old's mouth, you can probably guess what he's saying! :love:In the first one he is saying "How is mommy going to cook me breakfast in a full body cast?"

or

"5 more years and I can ride that baby! :D"

KPicha

09-13-2004, 01:23 PM

ROFL! I think its more like the latter! Vvvvvvaa Vooooommm! :D ALthough, I'm sure my husband has the former on HIS mind. ;)

RhinofromWA

09-13-2004, 01:23 PM

I that third picture he has his lip placed perfectly for an "F" word...:D What'chu be teach'n dem kidz o'er der? lol

That right the big grand dady, the F Bomb. lol Fuuuuuuu.....dggggggge

RhinofromWA

09-13-2004, 01:26 PM

Sweet bike...just "keep it under 60 OK?"

Vroomvroom? Hardley the kids will figure it out and run around the house going..

Ring-a-ding-ding-ding RING-a-ding-ding-ding

ReeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEing-a ding-ading-ding-ding

And then when the bikes get bigger it is Braaaaaaap!

KPicha

09-14-2004, 07:39 PM

RhinofromWA

09-15-2004, 10:53 AM

LOL! Yeah, they're already running around the house doing that. Especially the 2 yr old. He cracks me up- everytime he sees a motorcycle on the computer he starts running up and down the hall doing the throttle thing.

I can't wait 'til they're old enough to ride with me!!:D I still do that throttle thing. :o: :)

I started riding when I was 5ish (4 1/2 or so) My father made me learn to ride without training wheels on my bicycle first and then never put trainers on my dirt bike. My first bike was similiar to the Suzuki JR50's of today. No clutch, one gear, twist the throttle and go.

Some kids start sooner and have training wheels....I would advise against it. because the parents always end up with 50ft of rope tied to the bike and running behind the kid so they don't run into anything. Just make them waite until after they are riding a bicycle comfortably. Plus it delays buying bikes for your kids a year or more. :D

Have you found a trailer or hitch mounted rack? I saw int eh back of DirtRider they have a tray system that works sorta like a Sport works system. A arm comes down on the seat and hold the bike upright in the tray on a receiver hitch. Eith a short ramp it shouldn't be to hard to handle and might work out for you. I didn't write the companies name down....sorry.