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$tinkle
05-13-2004, 02:55 PM
Yesterday the U.S. Senate considered a measure that would extend federal unemployment benefits for 13 weeks. Twelve Republicans joined 46 Democrats and independent Jim Jeffords in supporting it--but it failed on a 59-40 vote in favor. Sixty votes were required "to overcome objections that extending the benefits violated last year's budget agreement," as the Associated Press explains.

roll call vote (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&session=2&vote=00088)

the missing voter? John Forbes Kerry.

Bob Dole resigned in 96 to seek the highest office in the land. He was confident he would beat the incumbent, and so were a minority of voters. What lesson can be learned from Dole?

If i were a kerry supporter, i would want him to give full time & attention to bush's ouster, and as such unburden himself from the office of the honorable senator from massachusetts.

N8
05-13-2004, 03:02 PM
Heeh... I read this during the morning...


:p


I'm in!


Not to mention:

****Edtited for Seriousness****

LordOpie
05-13-2004, 03:13 PM
$tinkle, I was going to comment, but N8 simply turned this into a partisan joke thread instead of having a serious discussion about the responsibilities of office. Oh well, could've been a good thread.

Jr_Bullit
05-13-2004, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by N8
Heeh... I read this during the morning...
John Kerry Must Resign
Petition Online.com

To: Senator John Kerry

In the aftermath of exposure of prisoner abuses by American service members at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, John Kerry has called for the resignation of Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, stating "As president, I will not be the last to know what is going on in my command. I will demand accountability for those who serve, and I will take responsibility for their actions."

We, the undersigned, agree with John Kerry's demand for accountability for violations of the Geneva Convention rules of warfare. However, we believe that accountability and responsibility are integral characteristics of those we would choose to lead our great country, and should not be presented merely as additional campaign promises, exercised only in exchange for election to our country's highest office.

We, the undersigned, believe men should become leaders because they are accountable and responsible; we do NOT believe that men should become accountable and responsible because they are leaders.

Senator Kerry, you stated that, as Commander in Chief, you "will take responsibility for the bad as well as the good." We have stood by for months watching and listening as you have exploited the good in your military records: the Silver Star, the Bronze Star, the three Purple Hearts, the four months spent in Vietnam. Senator Kerry, it is long past the time for you to take responsibility for the bad: for the war crimes you admitted having committed and participated in while serving in Vietnam, and for the discredit and disrespect you and your affiliates in Vietnam Veterans Against War brought upon your fellow service members.

We, the undersigned, hold John Kerry to his promise of accountability and responsibility; we demand that John Kerry acknowledge that, because of his own violations of the Geneva Convention, he is unfit to represent our great nation; we demand that John Kerry take responsibility for his actions and hold himself accountable by resigning his seat in the United States Senate; furthermore, we demand that John Kerry issue the long-overdue, public apology to his fellow Vietnam veterans for the accusations he wrongfully hurled at them in order to launch his political career.

Sincerely,

The Undersigned

Well now...that's a great idea! Let's bring Bush on board with this too...and not to mention EVERY OTHER politician...I think they all should air their dirty laundry in public and apologize for their indiscretions, their unfit behaviors, their lies, their gambles, their cheating on the way to the top and while holding office.

Yep. let's just clean out the closets of all the men and women at the top and any one who can't hack it better step down. :D

Current head cheese of course should go first.

$tinkle
05-13-2004, 03:13 PM
forgot to add: "John Kerry has fought again and again to extend unemployment benefits for workers left behind in the Bush economy." But he couldn't be troubled to cast a vote on their behalf.so why should we (the voting populous) expect him to fully serve if elected?

his lack of committment is not without precedence, as noted by his abandonment of one rich wife for a richer one, eh?

$tinkle
05-13-2004, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by Jr_Bullit
head cheeseunlady-like :nono:

Spud
05-13-2004, 04:28 PM
Yep, he should follow Dole's lead. No brainer. He can't campaign and be around to fulfill his duties in the Senate. This stuff will come back to haunt him.

Holding back on my quips as to who is running the whitehouse ;)

LordOpie
05-13-2004, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by Spud
Holding back on my quips as to who is running the whitehouse ;)
why? it's just as fair a question/concern.

Westy
05-13-2004, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by Spud
Yep, he should follow Dole's lead. No brainer. He can't campaign and be around to fulfill his duties in the Senate. This stuff will come back to haunt him.

Holding back on my quips as to who is running the whitehouse ;)

Perhaps that Bush's performance as POTUS has not been harmed by his relection campaign because he has never really been at the wheel?

$tinkle
05-13-2004, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by Westy
Perhaps that Bush's performance as POTUS has not been harmed by his relection campaign because he has never really been at the wheel? membership has its privileges

Jr_Bullit
05-13-2004, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by $tinkle
unlady-like :nono:

No one has ever confused me for a lady, sir.

Serial Midget
05-13-2004, 04:41 PM
He should resign after the Democratic Covention.

Spud
05-13-2004, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by LordOpie
why? it's just as fair a question/concern.

The answer is fairly obvious from earlier discussion on SNL about the San Diego Padre's Chicken..... and Paula Abdul firing Simon Crowly

excuse the spelling.

BurlyShirley
05-13-2004, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Jr_Bullit
No one has ever confused me for a lady, sir.

ewwww....you're a dude?

I thought you just talked funny:confused:

$tinkle
05-13-2004, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by Serial Midget
He should resign after the Democratic Covention. ok, i'll bite: what's so magical about that date?

RhinofromWA
05-13-2004, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by Jr_Bullit
No one has ever confused me for a lady, sir.

There is a story to that effect........

:sneaky:

Jr_Bullit
05-13-2004, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by RhinofromWA
There is a story to that effect........

:sneaky:


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Slugman
05-13-2004, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by $tinkle
ok, i'll bite: what's so magical about that date?

I'm not sure, but I think that is when he is offically the Democratic candidate... I forget the termonilogy, but right now he is in essence the candidate elect.

Just Lookin'...
05-13-2004, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by Jr_Bullit
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she's a lady, but ladies don't go around calling themselves 'ladies' in direct self-reference..

just like you can't give yourself a nick-name or convince anyone you're cool by calling yourself 'cool'.

or are you just being a mean-hearted-sob?

enquiring minds want to know.

BurlyShirley
05-13-2004, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by Jr_Bullit
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Is that some kind of BurlySurly is really cool cuz he smokes, smiley?

LordOpie
05-13-2004, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by BurlySurly
Is that some kind of BurlySurly is really cool cuz he smokes, smiley?
I think you have it backwards... she wants to smoke you.

Jr_Bullit
05-14-2004, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by BurlySurly
Is that some kind of BurlySurly is really cool cuz he smokes, smiley?

Nope...a lady doesn't smoke...so...just proving my point.

And uhm...just lookin, what sense exactly would it make for me to be a mean hearted sob by calling myself not a lady?

Y'all are weird and at 5am your logic baffles me.

$tinkle
05-14-2004, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by Slugman
I'm not sure, but I think that is when he is offically the Democratic candidate... I forget the termonilogy, but right now he is in essence the candidate elect. that could be right. After all, kucinich still has a dog in this race, and anything could happen. Maybe it's an unspoken rule or some silly protocol that you wait until you have the gold ring before you step down.

LordOpie
05-14-2004, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by $tinkle
that could be right. After all, kucinich still has a dog in this race, and anything could happen. Maybe it's an unspoken rule or some silly protocol that you wait until you have the gold ring before you step down.
do you think Kerry would let go of the "precious"?

So if Kerry steps down, Kucinich is next in line?

$tinkle
05-14-2004, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by LordOpie
So if Kerry steps down, Kucinich is next in line? he'd get hip-checked by hillary

Spud
05-14-2004, 12:20 PM
She's got the hips to do it.

Seriously, Kerry is a fool not to resign. He's going to have his lunch handed to him with his absent voting record. When the oppo attacks come with big graphics or showing some sound bites and then this missed vote....

I want to see the Shrub out in November, but Kerry's got to get his sh^t in one bag. PS, keep Ted Kennedy on sabitical and away from television until after the election.

Serial Midget
05-14-2004, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by Slugman
I'm not sure, but I think that is when he is offically the Democratic candidate... I forget the termonilogy, but right now he is in essence the candidate elect.

Presumed Nominee... :confused: