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N8
05-11-2004, 06:30 PM
Should Osama Bin Ladin resign over the Beheading of the American Civilian Nick Berg deal? I think he should and I also think President Bashar al-ASAD of Syria should do more than offer hollow smirking apologies through the UN! The cancer starts at the top and should removed. This whole thing disgusts me to no end - sure it was caused by "a few bad apples" but it appears to have been perpetuated by apathy and a lack of discipline condoned by the inaction and silence of those who were in charge. The damage this will cause AlQuada as a whole is incalculable - dereliction of duty at the highest level!!! Heads must roll. :angry:

Silver
05-11-2004, 06:54 PM
Vicodin? Oxycontin?

Both?

We Report, you Decide...

Serial Midget
05-11-2004, 07:06 PM
N8 - you truly are a troll. The answer is no - terrorists do what terrorists do. As a nation we have have set ourselves up on a higher road - our conduct should be beyond reproach. Your assertion elevates bin Laden to the level of the Bush adminstration... interesting.

N8
05-11-2004, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by Serial Midget
"... As a nation we have have set ourselves up on a higher road - our conduct should be beyond reproach.


..and therein lies the problem....

Human nature is human nature. True, we should STRIVE towards the ideal that our conduct should be beyond reproach, but acknowlege that such a goal is truely unattainable. Otherwise we as a nation are setting ourselves up for failure at the risk of our national security and putting ourselves in a no-win situation when dealing with those who don't share our haughty beliefs.

Silver
05-11-2004, 07:15 PM
Allright N8, so how many of the mudpeople do we kill before you're happy?

What's the ratio? 100:1? 1000:1? Maybe we should start killing the families of insurgents as well, so the children don't grow up to "hate our freedom."

N8
05-11-2004, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by Silver
Allright N8, so how many of the mudpeople do we kill before you're happy?

What's the ratio? 100:1? 1000:1? Maybe we should start killing the families of insurgents as well, so the children don't grow up to "hate our freedom."

Now that's just silly.

bomberz1qr20
05-11-2004, 07:28 PM
I think Osama is doing exactly what the Bush admin wants him to do. Why should he resign when he is doing such a stellar job?

We need him to terrify the American public right up until say, October - then Bush will have him "captured" and his approval ratings will jump right before election.

The beheadings are perfect, everyone is freaking out. Nice job Osama.

Serial Midget
05-11-2004, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by bomberz1qr20
The beheadings are perfect, everyone is freaking out. Nice job Osama.

You can't argue with sucess. :)

Silver
05-11-2004, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by N8
Now that's just silly.

That's true. Someone needs to pump the oil. Maybe we can keep them in cages and sexually humiliate them.

LordOpie
05-11-2004, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by N8
Should Osama Bin Ladin resign over the Beheading of the American Civilian Nick Berg deal? I think he should and I also think President Bashar al-ASAD of Syria should do more than offer hollow smirking apologies through the UN! The cancer starts at the top and should removed. This whole thing disgusts me to no end - sure it was caused by "a few bad apples" but it appears to have been perpetuated by apathy and a lack of discipline condoned by the inaction and silence of those who were in charge. The damage this will cause AlQuada as a whole is incalculable - dereliction of duty at the highest level!!! Heads must roll. :angry:

WHOA! N8 just equated Rummy to Bin Laden and Bush to al-Asad :eek: :eek:

Seriously... :eek:

drtbikrr
05-11-2004, 08:42 PM
Just looking at the results of the poll, now who actually said no? Actually I dont think he should resign, he should be shot (preferably by me)
Nick

MMike
05-11-2004, 10:50 PM
He shouldn't resign. Though he is evil, he's the best at what he does.

9/11 was the work of someone who had their sh|t together. He saw a big weakness, and he hit it hard. He's no dummy.....

Now I sit waiting for the retards to flame me thinking I support bin laden

Serial Midget
05-11-2004, 10:55 PM
Your game has been a bit off since you done the family thing... nothing you've written lately is worth a flaming ****. Instead of waiting for the flames that will not come you should take a much needed nap.

Originally posted by MMike
Now I sit waiting for the retards to flame me thinking I support bin laden

MMike
05-12-2004, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by Serial Midget
Your game has been a bit off since you done the family thing... nothing you've written lately is worth a flaming ****. Instead of waiting for the flames that will not come you should take a much needed nap.

Likely a combination of that, and N8 has really raised the bar...

Spud
05-12-2004, 09:51 AM
Bin Ladin has done a wonderful job at his gig. Consider the following:

After 9/11 the entire world showed enormous goodwill and support for the people of the United States, looked like a stumbling block for Al Queda.

But the long term strategy and patience came together. The US was response was predictable - invade the Middle East. Afghanistan was a first step, that just riled up some of the hard cores in the region, but solidified Bin Ladin’s followers. Keep up the rumblings that the US was only in the region for oil and power, wait a little. Boom, the US hits Iraq and Bin Ladin’s prophecies come true. US support outside the Middle East starts to erode, Iraq is in chaos, he’s got plenty of volunteers ready to go into Iraq and Afghanistan plus develop additional cells in Europe. Keep waiting for the Uncle Same to trip on his dick (prisoner abuse scandal for one), reap the benefits of recruiting.

For many, the US has gone from beloved beacon of democracy suffering an unwarranted attacked by cowards to arrogant super power using unchecked military powers. Perhaps Bin Ladin is a brilliant strategist.

:(

Westy
05-12-2004, 10:06 AM
The International Terrorists Union has a mandatory retirement age of 70 but you can not qualify for retirement until 65, so Osama has a few years to go before he can call it quits without having to find a new job. It should be easy for him to find a new gig with his high profile. But most of big terrorist organizations don't want the attention of a celebrity leader so he would probably have to settle for one of the smaller terrorists groups who are looking to grow. Of course if Al Queda starts having financial problems they may offer him an early retirement package in order to cut costs by reducing head count.

Westy
05-12-2004, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by Spud
For many, the US has gone from beloved beacon of democracy suffering an unwarranted attacked by cowards to arrogant super power using unchecked military powers. Perhaps Bin Ladin is a brilliant strategist.

:(

Silly boy, it was the media that did that, not Osama.:confused:

Slugman
05-12-2004, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by N8
Should Osama Bin Ladin resign over the Beheading of the American Civilian Nick Berg deal? I think he should and I also think President Bashar al-ASAD of Syria should do more than offer hollow smirking apologies through the UN! The cancer starts at the top and should removed. This whole thing disgusts me to no end - sure it was caused by "a few bad apples" but it appears to have been perpetuated by apathy and a lack of discipline condoned by the inaction and silence of those who were in charge. The damage this will cause AlQuada as a whole is incalculable - dereliction of duty at the highest level!!! Heads must roll. :angry:

Actually, the orders were from the top... and the orders were followed. OBL is a much better leader than GWB, b/c he knows what is going with his troops, he knows how to unite people against an enemy, and he knows how to spread his influence across many borders (Africa, Asia, Europe...)

Too bad he is an evil sadistic delusional misguided F'...

N8
05-12-2004, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by Slugman
Actually, the orders were from the top... and the orders were followed. OBL is a much better leader than GWB, b/c he knows what is going with his troops, he knows how to unite people against an enemy, and he knows how to spread his influence across many borders (Africa, Asia, Europe...)

Too bad he is an evil sadistic delusional misguided F'...

You make it sound like he's a better pick for the Dem's than ol' Kerry...


:p

Slugman
05-12-2004, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by N8
You make it sound like he's a better pick for the Dem's than ol' Kerry...


:p

Minus the whole hate all amaericans and killing them.... yeah!:D

Spud
05-12-2004, 10:36 AM
He's a better strategist than anyone who has parked their butt in the Whitehouse in decades.

We underestimate him at our own peril.